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When America Despised the Irish: The 19th Century’s Refugee Crisis
The History Channel ^ | March 16, 2017 | Christopher Klein

Posted on 02/06/2018 7:19:26 PM PST by Az Joe

Today, 32 million Americans—10 percent of the country’s population—celebrate their Irish roots. There was a time, however, when the thought of Americans honoring all things Irish was unimaginable. This is the story of the prejudice encountered by refugees from Ireland’s Great Hunger and how those Irish exiles persevered to become part of the American mainstream.


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: america; fartyshadesofgreen; immigration; ireland; irish
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To: Salamander

Great movie!


61 posted on 02/08/2018 9:41:40 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger

It sure is.

[Still annoyed by DiCaprio, but]... :D


62 posted on 02/08/2018 6:15:04 PM PST by Salamander (And Ezekiel Smiles Again....)
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To: Salamander

“The Cromwell Cruise Lines.”

Ha. I suspect that my Irish line headed for the colonies once Cromwell seized their estates. Not sure when they came over but I can find my obscure Irish family name on the Delmarva peninsula in the 1740s. Then after the Revolution down in North Carolina and other parts South. Delmarva was a hotbed of Tories during the Revolution so patriot families that objected to having their houses burned down tended to leave town.


63 posted on 02/08/2018 10:44:24 PM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Pelham

Mine were thrown off in the Philly ports after traveling in the luxurious sub-decks as “rebels, criminals and traitors”.

Meh.

Almost instantly, they took off down the Appalachian spine and wound up in southwestern PA, where many can still be found, “Mc” intact.

Apparently my branch dropped the Mc and Catholicism in the 1700s.

My gramma would drag me to ancient, decrepit Catholic cemeteries to lay flowers at the foot of the rocks that passed for tombstones.

She knew who and where each rock was.


64 posted on 02/08/2018 10:56:31 PM PST by Salamander (And Ezekiel Smiles Again....)
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To: akalinin; Pelham
The Ulster Irish sure were allies....in WWI and WWII

the 36th lost 2000 dead in a few hours at the Somme

My ancestry ...... ....though they were in the USA 18th century

Originally Cromwell orphans...

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65 posted on 02/08/2018 11:10:21 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Salamander

“Mine were thrown off in the Philly ports after traveling in the luxurious sub-decks as “rebels, criminals and traitors”.”

Well that will teach you. I figure that my clan must have dropped Catholicism early on as well. No trace of it once they landed down South after the Revolution. But they may well have first chosen Maryland because of its once Catholic connection.


66 posted on 02/08/2018 11:13:44 PM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: wardaddy; Salamander

I’ve got English, Scots, Scots-Irish, and Irish in my lineage. Seems like I might have every side of every English Civil War covered.


67 posted on 02/08/2018 11:16:40 PM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Trumpet 1

I read that there was more Scotts/Irish fighting in the Revolutionary War than any other group - they really hated those Brits.


68 posted on 02/08/2018 11:19:53 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

King George III referred to the American Revolution as “The Presbyterian Rebellion” for that very reason.


69 posted on 02/08/2018 11:23:30 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Peter Libra

>> I have record of a Great Grandfather born in County Cork

My heritage similar but one step closer.


70 posted on 02/08/2018 11:24:43 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: RayChuang88

>> They will illiterate

Nobody’s perfect.


71 posted on 02/08/2018 11:27:11 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: wardaddy

I’m sure you know what the hand represents...

You Irish?


72 posted on 02/08/2018 11:32:22 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Brown Deer; Pelham

Irish fought with my kin in Dixie

I’m a Sullivan


73 posted on 02/08/2018 11:35:48 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Gene Eric; vetvetdoug; mrsmel; Pelham

Sullivan

We claim Ulster Scot

Erroneously prolly given Sullivan is third most common name in Ireland ...

They became prods at some point....

And I’m pretty sure they were O Sullivan’s before they dropped the O and their Roman past....just guessing

Sullivan’s Hollow Mississippi but originated in Virginia 1720s after coming from Norn Iron

http://www.onlyinyourstate.com/mississippi/sullivans-hollow-ms/

It’s disputed the origin origin of the Red Hand but it’s been associated with the northern counties around 700 years and used by many Ulster organizations


74 posted on 02/08/2018 11:44:48 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: wardaddy

Legendarily the O’Neills were first to claim Ireland when Heremon O’Neill lopped off his own hand and threw it ashore. My paternal great grandmother was a Neal, which was O’Neill going back a ways.


75 posted on 02/08/2018 11:52:11 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

What about just planting a banner?

The ONeil way sounds like how the Comanches or Sinaloa Cartel woulda done it


76 posted on 02/08/2018 11:56:05 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: wardaddy

Milesian Legends are dramatic. He was racing rival clans to claim it and so his hand got there first.


77 posted on 02/08/2018 11:57:51 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: wardaddy
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78 posted on 02/09/2018 12:02:00 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: wardaddy

Legend has it the bloodied hand represents the dismembered hand of the captain that laid claim to the land discovered (or commandeered.)

If from Ireland, your 1720s heritage definitely precedes the U.K. bondage.


79 posted on 02/09/2018 12:09:22 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Excellent.


80 posted on 02/09/2018 12:09:50 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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