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Rochester Man Charged With Murder In Shooting After Crash
WCCO.com ^ | 1/17/18 | WCCO Staff

Posted on 01/17/2018 12:32:58 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

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To: IronJack

There was another witness in a third vehicle. Not reported in this account.

I’ll have to go find that one.


21 posted on 01/17/2018 2:25:59 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: TalBlack

If I was surrounded by a pack of spitting, hostile moslems, I just might make a good moslem or two.


22 posted on 01/17/2018 2:31:58 PM PST by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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To: IronJack

I’m having a bit of trouble with copy and paste right now.

http://www.startribune.com/rochester-man-charged-in-shooting-death-of-teen-who-dared-him-to-shoot/469757373/

Last three paragraphs.


23 posted on 01/17/2018 2:35:09 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Still sounds like a righteous shoot to me. He should have popped the loudmouthed passenger too.


24 posted on 01/17/2018 2:42:07 PM PST by IronJack (A)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
There may be three important things in play:
1. Will the evidence show how close to the shooter was the victim when shot? (i.e., reportedly, 2-3 feet?)
2. It appears the shooter was CCW. Will this be negated by any state conditions?
3. Will the jury that decides this case be "balanced"?
25 posted on 01/17/2018 3:00:44 PM PST by frog in a pot (Islam advocates killing Christians but many of its followers pretend to ignore that. Should we?)
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To: frog in a pot

“1. Will the evidence show how close to the shooter was the victim when shot? (i.e., reportedly, 2-3 feet?)”

Probably. Remember, the shooter went to his vehicle to retrieve his gun. Then, he approached the other driver. That’s escalation, clearly not allowed under the law.

“2. It appears the shooter was CCW. Will this be negated by any state conditions?”

Again, the shooter escalated the situation, instead of evading trouble. The law is clear and taught in all reputable carry courses.

“3. Will the jury that decides this case be “balanced”?”

Your guess is as good as mine on this one.

Show of hands...

Other than foolishly escalating the situation, what was the BIGGEST mistake this shooter made?


26 posted on 01/17/2018 6:30:00 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
It will be important to distinguish between leaving the scene of an accident and actually confronting the victim. Imagine the result where shooter intended to drive a few blocks and call the PD but before he got 25 feet he was stopped by a responding police unit.

Then, he approached the other driver. That’s escalation, clearly not allowed under the law.

It is not at all clear the shooter physically confronted the victim or even approached the victim; in fact, a witness who accompanied the victim stated:
…Rahim got very close to Weiss.

Depending on how the facts get sorted out and presented to the jury, the shooter may not have confronted (escalation), there may not be any state-imposed duty for the shooter to avoid any contact with the victim (de-escalation)(by running or by remaining in his auto), and there may not be any violation of the shooters CCW.

Much will be made of the seemingly most objective passing driver’s version. Her angle of vision will be examined (did she have a good view of and actually see all four hands at all times, etc.) along with whether she had stopped driving and was entirely focused on the incident, just to name a few.

As you say, "Your guess is as good as mine on this one."

27 posted on 01/18/2018 9:01:35 AM PST by frog in a pot (Islam advocates killing Christians but many of its followers pretend to ignore that. Should we?)
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