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Massachusetts to Confiscate bump stocks
Gun Owners Action League ^ | 1/16/18 | GOAL

Posted on 01/16/2018 12:59:36 PM PST by pabianice

Commonwealth of Massachusetts Issues Letter To LTC/FID Holders Regarding Bump Stocks and Trigger Cranks – You Need To Read This.

EOPSS Letter Calls For Forced Surrender.

1/16/18

GOAL has obtained a letter regarding bump stocks from the Massachusetts Executive Office of Public Safety, that will be mailed to all licensed MA gun owners and it is a doozy.

The letter, titled “Notice of Legislation Prohibiting Bump Stocks and Trigger Cranks” notifies addressees that the law directs EOPSS to notify gun owners about the change in law, specifically to section 18 to 21 of Chapter 110 and that the change, as of 2/1/18 makes it illegal to possess “so-called bump stocks and trigger cranks”.

The letter then defines a bump stock as follows.

“any device for a weapon that increases the rate of fire achievable with such weapon by using energy from the recoil of such weapon to generate a reciprocating action that facilitates repeated activation of the trigger.”

The letter also defines a trigger crank as follows.

“any device to be attached to a weapon that repeatedly activates the trigger of the weapon through the use of a lever or other part that is turned in a circular motion; proved, however, that “trigger crank” shall not include any weapon initially designed or manufactured to fire through the use of a crank or lever.”

The letter continues to notify licensed gun owners that the new law prohibited the purchase, sale, or offering for sale of a trigger crank. Most egregious of all, the letter also notes that owners of bump stocks and trigger cranks have only one legal path to follow, turning the device in to the police.

The letter notes.

“if you currently possess a bump stock or trigger crank within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts you should contact your local police department or the Massachusetts State Police and arrange an appointment to transfer custody of the prohibited item to the police for destruction.”

Some things to note from the letter.

• The letter notes that the devices are not legal to possess in MA, even in the home. • The letter notes that the devices cannot be legally possessed in MA with a machine gun license. • The letter contains a veiled threat stating, “Retention of such a prohibited item beyond the ninety day grace period will expose the owner to criminal prosecution. • There is no mention as to how an individual who chooses to comply with this law will be able to show proof that they did. • There is no mention about what the police will do with these devices upon receiving them.


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To: pabianice
Caetano v Massachusetts...a year or two SCOTUS struck down (9-0) this monstrous violation of the 2nd Amendment from the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court (the highest court in the state).

At one point the decision referred to the Massachusetts court's decision as "frivolous".

Hopefully someone will take this to the Federal courts.

21 posted on 01/16/2018 1:30:25 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Remember: All Cultures Are Equal!)
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To: Ouderkirk

Of course they have a choice. They can quit.


22 posted on 01/16/2018 1:31:38 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: pabianice

No plans to contact violent criminals/illegal owners and tell them to turn in their bump stocks.


23 posted on 01/16/2018 1:36:30 PM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: pabianice

“There is no mention as to how an individual who chooses to comply with this law will be able to show proof that they did.”

If they comply, they cannot be proven guilty.
Of course, that doesn’t mean the police, having a receipt of purchase of bump-stock, can’t get a search warrant and dismantle your house looking for it - ensuring you regret ever playing footsies with the limits of what’s legal.


24 posted on 01/16/2018 1:36:59 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: pabianice

“There is no mention about what the police will do with these devices upon receiving them.”

Review the new law in question, seeing what exemptions exist. There MUST be exemptions for the police to be able to handle contraband.
I suspect some cops will enjoy their new (to them) bump stocks.


25 posted on 01/16/2018 1:40:08 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: pabianice

““any device to be attached to a weapon that repeatedly activates the trigger of the weapon”

Next they are going to becoming after our fingers


26 posted on 01/16/2018 1:47:49 PM PST by DOC44
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To: tumblindice

Article I, section 10, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution provides that no state shall pass any ex post facto law.

Article I, section 10, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution provides that no state shall pass any ex post facto law.


27 posted on 01/16/2018 1:49:45 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Ouderkirk

They always have a choice.


28 posted on 01/16/2018 2:16:51 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: dartuser

They have a list of current permit and license holders. Any state would that requires them.


29 posted on 01/16/2018 2:17:32 PM PST by Snowybear
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To: pabianice

how are they gonna compensate the owners for the property they are seizing? go by purchase price or depreciated value?


30 posted on 01/16/2018 2:19:07 PM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: mrmeyer; ctdonath2

The legislation assumes/mandates compliance by the agencies. An individual chief or officer certainly has the choice to make.

My point was not down to that level of granularity.


31 posted on 01/16/2018 2:24:17 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: pabianice

Come and get it.


32 posted on 01/16/2018 2:44:45 PM PST by stimpy17 (Home of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: savedbygrace

government lawyers operate by the principle of they can do whatever they want until a judge says otherwise.


33 posted on 01/16/2018 2:49:37 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.tand http://www.house.gov)
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To: pabianice

They can’t confiscate what they don’t know you own...


34 posted on 01/16/2018 3:27:04 PM PST by apillar
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To: pabianice

Next step: MA bans Newtonian Laws of Physics.


35 posted on 01/16/2018 4:23:51 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: Ouderkirk

I was just following orders


36 posted on 01/16/2018 4:43:23 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: Ouderkirk

You always have a choice. The question is, are you willing to accept the consequences of that choice?

The police enforcing this “law” will, sooner or later, have to make the next choice....and the next choice.....and the next choice. Each becoming a little easier to rationalize.

When they begin taking people from their homes and hauling them in, a few will realize that they should have exited the slippery slope at the beginning. Most will not. They will stick with the “just following orders” defense.

So, the real question is not, will the police enforce said law(s), it is will be people force-ably resist?

Make no mistake, the slippery slope exists for both sides.


37 posted on 01/16/2018 4:52:13 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Indeed this is a very slippery slope.

One would think that the exhortation of Solzhenitsyn in the Gulag Archipelago is something everyone must consider.

38 posted on 01/16/2018 5:50:36 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: pabianice

This will probably go as poorly as the registration of “assault weapons” did in NY.


39 posted on 01/16/2018 6:55:38 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: pabianice

Yep - if they take any, they should be sued and charged with replacement costs. I have no use for such items but they shouldn’t be made illegal or confiscated.


40 posted on 01/17/2018 2:51:19 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives......;-))
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