Posted on 01/09/2018 4:08:00 AM PST by samtheman
Mother of armed robber shot dead by man defending his children: Why did he shoot him five times?
After an armed man entered a Popeyes restaurant in San Antonio last month and reportedly pointed a gun at a customers children, that customer a licensed concealed carrier shot the gunman dead.
But now the mother of the deceased 19-year-old gunman is asking why the father who fatally shot her son chose to fire more than once.
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
A little bleach in the gene pool.
Why was the mother shot instead of the robber?
I was trained to keep firing until the bad guy goes down, especially if the bad guy is holding a gun. Even down, the bad guy can remain a threat if he’s still holding the gun and appears conscious — it only takes a fraction of a second for him to pull the trigger.
Put another way: ammo is cheap, my loved ones’ lives are precious.
... some dirtbag who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop in Florida ended up executing the deputy who stopped him.
The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range.
Another deputy was wounded and a police dog killed.
A statewide manhunt ensued. The low-life piece of human garbage was found hiding in a wooded area with his gun. SWAT team officers fired and hit said low-life 68 times.
Now heres the kicker: Asked why they shot the guy 68 times, Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel get this. Thats all the bullets we had.
He really saved the day and protected a lot of people today, (police captain) Starnes told the paper.”
San Antonio has some SERIOUS LEFTISTS running the place, but I guess it hasn’t filtered down to this guy. To use Reddit language: This guy is BASED.
Because she’s prepping for a lawsuit.
Point a gun at my children?
I would have reloaded another magazine and emptied it into his face just to be sure.
The title suggests she was shot dead.
Yup.
I can't believe how bad writing has gotten.
Your son pointed a gun at someone’s kids. The dad protected his kids. Your son got what he deserved.
Why do we hear this so often: “my boy he a good boy. he din do nuffin!”
I’d say adrenaline.
Shot 5 times because the POS didn’t stop moving on the first four.
I am certain that the mother and her allies are upset that the guy who saved the day should have shot him in the hand to knock the gun out...without, of course, hitting his hand.
Because his momma didn't raise him right!
Polk county. Sheriff Grady Judd
The woman needs to google “Adrenalin”.
One of the reasons I was confident that George Zimmerman did not “gun down” Martin and the gun was probably discharged in a struggle is that it was discharged only once. That’s very unusual. What is typical, at least considering how the human mind works when their family is being threatened, is that they unload the gun at the source of the risk.
Really? A SWAT Team only carries 68 rounds?
I will get killed for this. I wouldn’t care if he was shot 40 times as he was committing an armed robbery with kids there. But this guy likely was raised in hell with crack-addicted mother and no father and Lord knows what else. He has to put be put down like a rabid dog because once they are rapid it is too late. But he wasn’t born evil. And the cycle just continues generation after generation.
Personal responsibility? Of course. But just as we were raised to be good citizens and good people, these guys were raised to be ruthless animals. And what you are raised as is usually what you will be.
Do not misconstrue any of this as me being against very harsh sentences and self-protection with a gun or whatever you need.
But if this loser had been raised by you or I or many others on this board, he would not have been an armed robber.
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Robber killed by citizen shooter was shot at weeks earlier
By Bruce Selcraig, Staff Writer Published 3:45 pm, Wednesday, December 13, 2017
When local real estate broker Stephen Manion saw the news that a young father, carrying a concealed weapon and having dinner with his two children at a Popeyes restaurant on the South Side, had shot and killed a masked robber last week at about 8:30 p.m. Wednesday, it struck him as weirdly familiar.
Around 8:30 p.m. on a Tuesday two weeks prior, Manion said, he was at a Dollar General on W.W. White Road and stopped a robbery by firing at the very same guy.
Manion missed. A San Antonio Police Department spokesman, Officer Doug Greene, confirmed that detectives believe the suspect who fled the Dollar General that night was Andres Herrera, 19, who was killed a week later at Popeyes.
Carlos Molina, 32, who was eating at Popeyes with his two kids on Dec. 6, had a license to carry a weapon and told police he opened fire after the robber pointed a gun at employees and customers, including him. Molina did not respond to interview requests left in text messages and notes. A police captain that night said he really saved the day and protected a lot of people.
Manion, 65, himself the father of three grown children, has had his concealed-carry license about seven years. He, too, said he only fired when he felt certain the robber was endangering the life of the Dollar General cashier and other shoppers.
Manion said he was shopping near the back of the store on Nov. 21 when he saw customers frantically coming his way from the front. He moved to another aisle and got a clear view of a robbery in progress.
I went behind a rack of potato chips, said Manion, who estimated he was about 16 feet from Herrera, who was getting very agitated because the clerk was getting upset and having trouble getting the register open.
He was getting hysterical and screaming, `Youre taking too long. I was sure she was about to get shot, Manion said.
Clutching his 9-millimeter handgun, Manion said he waited what seemed like 20 minutes, but was probably only four for Herrera to step away from the cashier, or for her to get out of way. Then, as Herrera leaned over the checkout counter and paused, Manion fired one round, but missed high.
He started running out of the store, dropping one-dollar bills as he ran, Manion said. He was wearing sunglasses, but was very, very pale. I could see the gun, stainless or chrome, probably a .380-milimeter or similar. I couldnt tell if he was on foot or had a car parked around the side.
I dont think my blood pressure came up that much, added Manion, who said he usually carries his gun whenever he leaves the house. I did think for a moment that taking a shot at him could get me killed or that someone else might get hit. And, yes, I did think before firing that someone, somewhere, loves this kid. Everyone has a mother.
Greene, the SAPD spokesman, said robbery detectives think the man Manion shot at was Herrera, and theyre working to see if Herrera might have been involved in numerous other armed robberies.
There are still robbery victims out there waiting for us to do our job, Greene said. The investigation is still a work in progress, even if the guy we think did all the others is dead.
Police on Friday arrested Trevon Deshon Atkinson, 18, who confessed to driving Herrera to the Popeyes after a hotel key card in Herreras pocket led officers to a hotel room rented by Atkinson, an arrest warrant affidavit states. The affidavit linked Herrera to a Dec. 5 robbery at a pawn shop because of evidence found in the room.
A San Antonio native, Manion said he had twice before had a gun pointed at him by robbers, here in the 1970s and again in the Virgin Islands in the early 1990s. Because gun owners are frequently stereotyped, Manion said he wanted the public to know that he was a Bexar County Democratic Party precinct chairman with political beliefs to the left of Bernie Sanders.
Liberals are misunderstood, he said. The left is not trying to take away all the guns from the right. There is this concerted PR effort to discredit those with concealed-carry licenses and to really play it up if someone (with a license) does something stupid. I think most of those folks are the responsible ones.
Manion said it had been years since he practiced shooting his gun.
Did he think about the possibility of retaliation if the robber had survived?
Thats a valid consideration, Manion said. But not a fear.
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