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Is the heroin epidemic an act of terrorism
1/7/2018 | Myself

Posted on 01/07/2018 12:42:20 AM PST by Crucial

Usually selling drugs is all about money. Drug dealers don’t care who they hurt just as long as they have a strong cash flow. One would think the the heroin epidemic is a case in point.

Looking at the data I find that over the past 15 years the supply of heroin has almost doubled. Over the past 20 years the price of heroin has fallen more than 50%. I also notice that Hezbollah has become a major drug trafficker and that it uses its profits for weapons.

Now this is all bad enough but a thought occurred to me and that is what if flooding the market with cheap heroin isn’t about just money but deliberately crippling and killing the youth of America? What if the goal is to disrupt American society in a fundamental way to render America a much weaker enemy?

I, for one don’t believe in coincidences. The heroin epidemic may just be an act of terrorism on behalf of the Iranian government.


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To: smileyface

Thank you!


41 posted on 01/07/2018 4:43:48 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Crucial
Looking at the data I find that over the past 15 years the supply of heroin has almost doubled. Over the past 20 years the price of heroin has fallen more than 50%

Simple economics. Increased supply = decreased price.

Oddly enough, assuming no other inputs or barriers to "trade", this might be seen as "good news", in that it means that demand hasn't risen as much as supply.

I take my potential silver lining where I can find them. :)

42 posted on 01/07/2018 4:44:56 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: raiderboy
Taking heroine is not someome elses terrorism. It is your personal weakness of character.

You might want to read up on the Opium Wars. England forced China, quite literally at gunpoint, TWICE, to buy, and continue regularly buying, England's Opium supply. China suddenly develops a massive problem with a vast increase in opium addicts, and associated problems.

Supply often does create its own demand.

However, I agree with you that the premise that this current heroin issue is not likely due to terrorists.

43 posted on 01/07/2018 4:50:36 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: 9YearLurker

There has been a deliberate attempt by the powers that be to not stop the problem. I have spoken with past DEA and Police force members ( as far back as 1997). They told me: 1. Clinton stopped ability to catch drug planes coming into America 2. Local police have no budget to catch local dealers. The were very distressed and felt they had no way to stop the OD epidemic. I have vetted every presidential candidate since and Trump is the only one who called it out. I immediately became a supporter. I think we can see now that drugs have financed Clinton, Obama and the Clinton Foundation. My hope is Trump nails them and the drug problem goes away with them behind bars. My prayers anyway.


44 posted on 01/07/2018 4:53:44 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: pepsionice

You still have the issue of Post OP pain, alternative meds don’t work for along with Cancer or incurable disease with Intractable pain. Most don’t have ‘real’ treatments for. Short course of as low a dose of NORCO as needed for 1-2 weeks depending on how major the surgery.

Then you have the ADDICTION of drugs like Xanax, Cymbalta, Lyrica and Neurotin with their SUICIDE Black Box warnings.

Had thumb surgery, I used my 2 week supply to get through Rehab which was worse than the post surgery pain that could be controlled with Arthritis Tylenol and Ice packs. Still don’t have fine motor skills fully restored after 13 weeks of very painful Rehab. Surgery is not clear cut, there are complications the surgeon doesn’t see until they view the area. Ended up with 2 screws in the thumb base joint, was just supposed to have the torn ligaments reattached and Trigger Lock released. Thumb is now FROZEN, and Index finger barely functional. Wrist nerves compromise from the hard cast.

That would not work for MAJOR surgeries which require pain meds.

A IDIOT snowflake after her husband’s ER Appendectomy was incensed he got twenty 5 MG NORCOS. She said the family member who is a dr scripts Toredol...which is a FDA RESTRICTED SCRIPT anti-inflammatory like Advil and causes blood thinning besides the usual GI reflux/gerd, bleeding ulcers.


45 posted on 01/07/2018 5:13:00 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: mabarker1

I think you are correct in your assumption.

Why else enhanced the heroin with Fentenal and carfentenal?

These additives make the heroin deadly.

An addict has a one in ten chance that their hit of heroin will be deadly.


46 posted on 01/07/2018 5:27:09 AM PST by Mad Dog009 (Don't go searching for a Mermaid Son... if you don't know how to swim)
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To: AmericanMade

If any drug has weaponized its Fentanyl. Opioid deaths in Canada have more than doubled in Canada since the start of 2015 (4000 across Canada), but Fentanyl as the cause of those deaths has increased from 30% to almost 75% in the same time period. If the rate of deaths on Ontario and Quebec rises to the level in British Columbia, the number of deaths in Canada will double.

In contrast, motor vehicle accident fatalities in Canada now run less than 2000 per year, and murders average around 600 (less than Chicago’s 2017 total of 650). For Canada, this is a real crisis.


47 posted on 01/07/2018 5:27:15 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: Crucial

Opium wars to break down a society- what a novel idea


48 posted on 01/07/2018 5:33:52 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Crucial

I thoroughly agree, it is so cheap now but terribly expensive...and I believe this was a strategy implemented by BHO on orders from his puppet master...


49 posted on 01/07/2018 5:35:28 AM PST by Shady (We WON the Battle, Now let's WIN THE WAR!!!!)
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To: Crucial

In all fairness, heroin is cheap and available because of market forces, supply and demand. Whoever supplies it is able to supply and smuggle it, but who they are doesn’t matter, because if they can’t, someone else can.

Nor can they impact demand. If anything, demand is created by the legal pharma companies that produce, market, and encourage doctors to over-prescribe their legal drugs, causing addiction by those individuals that fall into that trap.

Yet there is a new twist. Fentanyl and its analogues are much more potent than is heroin. They are also much cheaper to produce in drug labs and smuggle than is heroin. They are not made from opium poppies, but are synthetic drugs.

So there is no supply chain going halfway around the world, across many nations, from farmer’s fields, caravans of smugglers, many bribes, etc.

And yet, Fentanyl and its analogues are far more deadly than is heroin, now killing around 60,000 Americans a year, a number that is increasing every year. Drug dealers are motivated to cut their heroin with it, replacing the bulk with fillers.


50 posted on 01/07/2018 5:36:00 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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To: AmericanMade

Both Poppy and Bill were big into the CIA drug smuggling back in the day.

Lots still profiting from it now.


51 posted on 01/07/2018 5:37:13 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: GailA

Nice list of links, but none of them follow the approved narrative. Are you trying to get sent to re-education? LOL

The entire “crisis” has been manufactured by the media\government complex. Yes, heroin use is up. That happens anytime the CIA spends too much time in Afghanistan. “Heroin overdoses” are also up, but not significantly when the actual culprit is removed from the false reports. The reason for the increase in overdoses is simple: Fentanyl. This substance is deadly and I would rank its purveyors with terrorists. They should be hunted down and shot like rabid dogs.

On the other hand, torturing those who suffer from chronic pain is inhumane and, quite simply, evil. That’s not hyperbole. Taking away efficacious treatment when a person is suffering is torture. Hell, even terrorists are granted respite between water boarding sessions!

“Conservatives” advocating that the Federal government stand between patient and doctor are either ignorant or liars. I’ve got two words for such people, but they would get me banned. I would love to hear from them after they’ve spent months or years suffering real pain from a debilitating illness.

From a logical perspective, these people are completely indistinguishable from any other liberal. They are big-government do-gooders who are thoroughly convinced in their own moral superiority. I believe my Lord addressed such people as Pharisees.


52 posted on 01/07/2018 5:40:39 AM PST by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: Crucial

All illegal drugs are due to those who desire to destroy this country, so yes, absolutely.


53 posted on 01/07/2018 6:23:08 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Norski

Huldah 1776 here. Thank you for that info. Since I’ve been staying with an elderly woman my pain has quickly gotten worse over the last 6 months but I think I am allergic to something in the house. Eyes always burning and stuffy nose. I have rheumatoid arthritis and other pains. I am the tin man in the morning (EVERY joint—neck freaks me out the most) and have muscle aches that come and go. I think bottom line is stress but it won’t heal without treatment. HBOT is supposed to be healing. I could also be getting the pain from hypothyroidism which could be from stress damage. And I look forward to dementia too.

https://oxfordrecoverycenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Hyperbaric-Oxygen-Therapy-for-Neuropathy.pdf

This is for myself (didn’t know the official name):

https://www.livestrong.com/article/180443-what-are-the-causes-of-bilateral-median-nerve-neuropathy/


54 posted on 01/07/2018 6:31:02 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: lavaroise

yep, you see, there was this GHAZI operating from 1600 Pennsylvania doing everything he could and can to diminish America.
Everything , leaving now stone unturned while simultaneously empowering islam with his dual sided blade.


55 posted on 01/07/2018 6:32:27 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Norski

Thank you for that info.


56 posted on 01/07/2018 6:41:35 AM PST by moovova
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Death from a thousand cuts!


57 posted on 01/07/2018 6:42:32 AM PST by moovova
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To: eyedigress
John Belushi had a breathing problem.

Opiods and Cocaine cured it for him.

58 posted on 01/07/2018 6:48:20 AM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: RC one

West Virginia has been a portal. They are having problems with funding burials.

“Drugs are killing so many people in West Virginia that the state can’t keep up with the funerals” 2017

A Charleston Gazette-Mail investigation last year found that between 2007 and 2012, as the state’s drug overdose epidemic skyrocketed, drug wholesalers shipped over 780 million doses of opiate painkillers hydrocodone and oxycodone to the state, or roughly “433 pain pills for every man, woman and child in West Virginia.” Those two drugs killed more than 1,700 West Virginians during that time period, the investigation found.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/07/drugs-are-killing-so-many-people-in-west-virginia-the-state-cant-keep-up-with-the-funerals


59 posted on 01/07/2018 6:52:11 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Crucial

The Russians cause just ask the MSM.


60 posted on 01/07/2018 8:38:15 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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