[Jamestown1630]

I think you have misinterpreted Hynek and Vallee somewhat; but thanks anyway.

[JockoManning]

I understand. It is a bit disputed. However, I've read all Vallee's books and I think it is fair to say he does believe they are evil spiritual entities from an evil spiritual dimension. He seems to be very careful about the context involved where he says such things, however. He does not seem to get into the fallen angel, GREAT DECEPTION of the end times stuff.

Dr J Allen Hynek reportedly believed similarly but may not have put it quite so starkly. Hynek had more and closer experiences with such things in his government jobs. How much is not clear.

I haven't talked to either one face to face. Time will tell.

[JockoManning]

That's conceivable. Neither of us have talked with them directly.

And, we don't have the refs handy.

However, we have read Vallee extensively. And, we have noticed that he changes his wording somewhat depending on his audience and on where he is in his evolving perspective on such things.

Q has also speculated that Dr Vallee may have been told in no uncertain terms to ditch the evil spiritual perspective if he wanted to live longer.