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To: jeffersondem; rockrr; DoodleDawg
jeffersondem post #346: "I offer, without proof, that anti-abortion violence was not what Jefferson meant by the term “domestic violence.”

BJK responding: "My entire argument is that Jefferson must be referencing events actually happening in 1776, such as loyalists "domestic violence" against local patriot governments..."

jeffersondem: "You now want to move the goal post to 'domestic violence?'"

The DOI reference is to "domestic insurrections".

jeffersondem: "Please post any sources you have that support your earlier claim that Jefferson's reference to 'domestic insurrection' in the DOI refers to loyalists or Indians."

Please post any sources you have that support your earlier claim that Jefferson's reference to "domestic insurrection" in the DOI refers to slave revolts.
Please name the slave revolts it refers to.

When you find there were no slave revolts at that time, then ask yourself: what other "domestic insurrections" did happen?
The answer is: loyalist insurrections against local patriot governments.

381 posted on 12/03/2017 4:32:14 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK; DiogenesLamp; DoodleDawg; rockrr
“Please post any sources you have that support your earlier claim that Jefferson's reference to “domestic insurrection” in the DOI refers to slave revolts.”

When you have an opportunity, take a look at this:

http://edu.lva.virginia.gov/online_classroom/shaping_the_constitution/doc/dunmores_proclamation

And note this paragraph:

“Rumors of slave insurrections had circulated in Virginia throughout 1775, and many owners of slaves feared that the British government would encourage a slave rebellion to suppress the patriot cause. Dunmore’s proclamation did not significantly enlarge his military force, but did greatly increase resentment of the British government. Although Dunmore recruited a small regiment of African Americans, many of them died of disease in the camps and on royal warships, and his offer of freedom to enslaved Virginians persuaded many influential white men who were uncertain about which side to take to oppose the king and his royal governor. In writing the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson euphemistically referred to Dunmore’s proclamation as exciting “domestic insurrection.” “

389 posted on 12/04/2017 5:59:27 AM PST by jeffersondem
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