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To: DoodleDawg; BroJoeK
Had Lincoln been allowed to resupply the fort then no hostile acts by Anderson and the North would have been committed after that. The status quo would remain. Why wasn't that enough for the South?

I feel as if it is a waste of my time to look up and post the salient communications for your benefit, because I know from past history you will simply pretend I didn't do it, and then you will ask this same question, or variation thereof, again and again.

- Adjutant-General.

HEADQUARTERS OF THE ARMY, Washington, D. C., April 4, 1861.

Lieutenant Colonel HENRY L. SCOTT, A. D. C., New York:

SIR: This letter will be landed to you by Captain G. V. Fox, ex-officer of the Navy, and a gentleman of high standing, as well as possessed of extraordinary nautical ability. He is charged by high authority here with the command of an expedition, under cover of certain ships of war, whose object is to re-enforce Fort Sumter.

To embark with Captain Fox you will cause a detachment of recruits, say about two hundred, to be immediately organized at Fort Columbus, with a competent number of officers, arms, ammunition, and subsistence. A large surplus of the latter-indeed, as great as the vessels of the expedition can take-with other necessaries, will be needed for the augmented garrison of Fort Sumter.

The subsistence and other supplies should be assorted like those which were provided by you and Captain Ward of the Navy for a former expedition. Consult Captain Fox and Major Eaton on the subject, and give all necessary orders in my name to fit out the expedition, except that the hiring of vessels will be left to others.

Some fuel must be shipped. Oil, artillery implements, fuses, cordage, slow-march, mechanical levers, and gins, &c., should also be put on board.

Consult, also, if necessary, confidentially, Colonel Tompkins and Major Thornton.

Respectfully, yours,

WINFIELD SCOTT.

https://ehistory.osu.edu/books/official-records/001/0236

BroJoeK, I will point out to you that the Pickens letter was not sent until two days later. Reinforcement was already the plan before the Pickens letter went out.

133 posted on 11/20/2017 2:43:18 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Doing that font thing only serves to illustrate what an idiot you are.


135 posted on 11/20/2017 2:46:29 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: DiogenesLamp; BroJoeK

Read the orders sent by Secretary of the Navy Welles and Secretary of War Cameron. They give a different picture of what the expedition was ordered to do. General Scott had a different understanding of what was going on than members of the cabinet did. The fog of war.


136 posted on 11/20/2017 3:00:00 PM PST by x
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To: DiogenesLamp
I feel as if it is a waste of my time to look up and post the salient communications for your benefit, because I know from past history you will simply pretend I didn't do it, and then you will ask this same question, or variation thereof, again and again.

And yet you do while ignoring all the evidence that had the South allowed Fort Sumter to be resupplied then reinforcements would not have been landed.

145 posted on 11/20/2017 3:40:47 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp; DoodleDawg; x; rockrr
DiogenesLamp: "I feel as if it is a waste of my time to look up and post the salient communications for your benefit, because I know from past history you will simply pretend I didn't do it, and then you will ask this same question, or variation thereof, again and again."

Your problem is, you post only those quotes which best support your opinions and ignore any others, such as these final orders to Lincoln's resupply mission commanders:

In short: resupply only, no first use of force, if force required, then only to resupply & reinforce Fort Sumter.
There were no orders -- none, zero, nada orders -- to attack Confederates surrounding Fort Sumter.

252 posted on 11/23/2017 4:08:52 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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