To: BroJoeK
In fact, Lincoln's final orders were just what he told South Carolina Governor Pickens: resupply only and no first use of force. No they weren't, and you and I have already gone over this. The men and arms and munitions were already sent before the Pickens letter went out. You can see from the various Ship's orders that the reinforcement was part of the mission.
Lincoln deliberately lied. The men and arms were already on their way before he told Pickens that he wouldn't throw in any additional men or arms.
The Confederates already had copies of the Ship's orders telling them that the men and arms were coming. That's why they knew Lincoln was lying to them the moment his letter arrived.
172 posted on
11/16/2017 9:23:22 AM PST by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: DiogenesLamp
DiogenesLamp:
"No they weren't, and you and I have already gone over this.
The men and arms and munitions were already sent before the Pickens letter went out.
You can see from the various Ship's orders that the reinforcement was part of the mission.
Lincoln deliberately lied..," On numerous occasions we've reviewed those orders to Lincoln's mission commanders, and they clearly say just what Lincoln told SC Governor Pickens: resupply only and no first use of force.
"The primary object of the expedition is to provision Fort Sumter, for which purpose the War Department will furnish the necessary transports.
Should the authorities of Charleston permit the fort to be supplied, no further particular service will be required of the force under your command, and, after being satisfied that supplies have been received at the fort, the Powhatan, Pocahontas and Harriet Lane will return to New York, and the Pawnee to Washington.
Should the authorities at Charleston, however, refuse to permit or attempt to prevent..."
DiogenesLamp: "The Confederates already had copies of the Ship's orders telling them that the men and arms were coming.
That's why they knew Lincoln was lying to them the moment his letter arrived."
But there was no lie from Lincoln.
The only lies are your efforts to obfuscate the fact that Jefferson Davis intended to take Fort Sumter, by military force if necessary.
177 posted on
11/16/2017 12:42:01 PM PST by
BroJoeK
(a little historical perspective...)
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