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1 posted on 10/25/2017 7:01:41 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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68 posted on 10/25/2017 8:00:38 PM PDT by bitt (press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally)
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I was a newsman in Canadian radio but had enough by 1993. My gradual epiphany, if there is such a thing, started with Reagan’s election, before which we were told the world would end. Then he made it better but was fought all the way. Kinda like President Trump now, but not as bad.

I was at the Canadian war museum a couple of weeks back and they have a “Cold War ending” display with Gorbachev looking warm and fuzzy and Reagan and Thatcher with typically-chosen facial expressions. They never change.


70 posted on 10/25/2017 8:01:57 PM PDT by gymbeau (America...great again!)
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I think the media truly started feeling their oats after Watergate and the Vietnam years, and they've been on a power trip ever since. It is time to pull the plug on many of them, though - they have aided and abetted the lawless Democrats for a long time, which is all seems to be coming to a head now.
72 posted on 10/25/2017 8:16:30 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The U.S. Senate - where American freedom goes to die.)
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The start - - the turning point for mainstream Americans - - was the Drudge Report... Whitewater - Dan Rather and FreeRepublic.


74 posted on 10/25/2017 8:19:39 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action". - Ian Fleming)
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≈3500 BC.

It's gotten "progressively" worse.

77 posted on 10/25/2017 8:29:44 PM PDT by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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For me, despite all their lies and agenda-driven reoprting,the media at least did their business with the pretense of impartiality. That pretense was irrevovcably wiped away with their childish, damnable reporting on J. Danforth Quayle, including the infamous potatoe incident.
79 posted on 10/25/2017 8:36:02 PM PDT by Carlucci
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Johnson, but especially Clinton


81 posted on 10/25/2017 8:38:06 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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I don’t recall Douglas Edwards being biased, but Uncle Walter surely was!


82 posted on 10/25/2017 8:39:38 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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1974 - the tag team of Sam Donaldson, Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw day after day going after Nixon - perhaps even more disgusting than what’s happening to Trump today because it was unprecedented and unapologetic.....


83 posted on 10/25/2017 8:52:45 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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There is not a date that the press became so fake. And some may say it was somewhat fake no matter how far you go back. But modern day press was formed as early as the 1990’s when media started to lose money. Cable TV news started to take viewers away from TV and newspapers. The internet exacerbated the problem as the media started to lose viewers.

During this time the funding for newsrooms dropped to the bare bones. Reporters were replaced by news feed writers who simply took AP news feeds and rewrote them to look like local reporting. Today most news rooms only have a small hand full of reporters, not the large news rooms you see in movies like All the President’s Men. In the current news rooms there are some reporters who rarely leave their office. And several copy writers. And in many cases reporters just work from home, many are paid by the story.

Now add that to today’s situation as the readers have left newspapers. And viewers have stopped watching broadcast TV in favor of cable. But now the cable companies are losing audiences to cord cutters. The cable companies who owned CNN and MSNBC used live broadcasts to retain audiences. Sports was a big part of that, as was reality TV. But a big part of live, much watch TV are the news channels including Fox. They decided that the best news, fastest, most honest and complete was not important. What was important was to be “must watch TV”. So they skewed their news to get the most sensationalism possible. And to get the most partisan news possible. Non partisan news can be produced by anybody. And the audience is not loyal. But partisan news develops a very loyal audience which grows in size depending on how well the views of the news channel matches those of the potential audience. The same approach was applied to the remaining newspapers like the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

So now we are not watching news. We are watching propaganda, cheaply produced in order to produce the largest audience. And the fact that it is so cheap to produce means that billionaires are influencing the content as most large media don’t cost any more than a pro football team.

So, as


86 posted on 10/25/2017 9:04:27 PM PDT by poinq
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I think during the Clinton Presidency. The networks announce they would no longer investigate stories.


89 posted on 10/25/2017 9:13:25 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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It started with Walter Cronkite back in the sixties and became worse year by year.


92 posted on 10/25/2017 9:29:12 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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Someone should have noticed during Reagan. CNN was owned by idiot Ted Turner who married Hanoi Jane. So this goes back a ways. Fox News and then Republican hatred by the media blew the lid. Took till Trump to become the most clear.


94 posted on 10/25/2017 10:33:26 PM PDT by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction)
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I should add that a defining year was 1987, 30 years ago. The Bork confirmation and Iran Contra hearings, plus the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine. All three sent the left overboard.


95 posted on 10/25/2017 10:40:23 PM PDT by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction)
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I have articles in my files from the late 60's which I flagged for bias contortions (spin in the current vernacular). Most of them pertain to Vietnam but some deal with the CIA and/or the USSR. My primary interest was identifying articles wherein the truth was 'massaged' rather than misrepresented.

In the early 80's I first noted stories in print and broadcast which contradicted empirical data (lies). By the mid 80's, the network news was disgraced. By the century's turn the print media fully departed from truth to pursue propaganda. At this point, the correspondents are incapable of even perceiving their deficiencies.

Except for the rise of the internet and alternative news sites, this nation would have devolved into civil war and IED no-go zones.

The only defense is to learn and encourage critical thinking. Teach your loved ones to weigh, evaluate, analyze, and compare and contrast. Even if they only think about what they hear before they open their mouths to pass it on, there is hope.
96 posted on 10/25/2017 10:51:20 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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1931-1034 when NYT lied about Stalin and the Famine. Walter Duranty won the Pulitzer Prize for lying. It was debunked in 2003 but NYT did not give back the Pulitzer.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/pulitzer-winning-lies/article/4040

98 posted on 10/25/2017 11:04:48 PM PDT by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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Out in the open leftist? I’d say the 60’s is when they took a hard left and sided with the hippies screaming at the American servicemen coming back from Vietnam.

Blatant in your face leftist? 2015 Presidential election is when the last facade fell from the thin veneer of their pretend unbiased claim.


100 posted on 10/26/2017 2:11:11 AM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
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ditto the many above . . .

Walter Cronkite 1969. Months after the truth of the Tet Offensive became apparent

Reaffirmed during the coverage of Watergate 1972

It was obvious the grey lady and alphabet news had an agenda that was anti-American

101 posted on 10/26/2017 2:17:14 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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It started when Walter Cronkite decided to start reporting the Viet Nam war was lost. I was a kid listening to the news when he essentially said that. I thought, “Holy smoke, he just destroyed years of effort.”


102 posted on 10/26/2017 3:14:49 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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When the people running newsrooms worried more about how costs were contained covering a story rather than getting the facts straight.

Once upon a time, the New York Times had a managing editor who could point out a calculus error to Einstein. Today’s NYT possesses no one of that caliber. Most likely the “journalists” work in the field because they hate math. Despise it. Never mind the exposure to how dead white males like Newton and Leibniz thought.

IMO, today’s “journalism” is about me, me, me. That’s when it’s not hyperventilating about the weather, or elevating drivel to the level of news. Facts and logical thought fall behind priorities like dumbing down articles and scripts, (”That’s too complicated” and “What do women want”) surfing Pintrest while at work, checking fantasy league results, and politicking with the boss to get a better shift.

We don’t really have any newspapers or TV news today. We have “news theater” posing as “objective journalism.” The internet has produced some good work, but at the expense of getting paid enough to make a living.

My $0.02.


103 posted on 10/26/2017 3:50:48 AM PDT by Sam_Damon
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