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White House petition giving Trump a patriotic alternative to amnesty
White House petition ^ | 9/19/17 | self

Posted on 09/19/2017 3:15:48 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com

Trump clearly favors legalizing DACA recipients and perhaps all DREAMers. He clearly isn't going to do mass deportations of DREAMers.

If you oppose amnesty, then you have to give him an alternative plan. This petition does exactly that, proposing that Trump helps repatriate DREAMers via a voluntary program that would help them reestablish themselves in their home countries.

It has the following advantages:

* It's a workable plan. * It wouldn't get tied up in the courts. * It would help the USA and Mexico. * It won't incentivize future illegal immigration. * Trump can promote and defend it. * Those who oppose it can be made to look bad to their base. * It wouldn't cost as much money as other plans. * It will appeal to Trump's desire for big solutions.

The reality is that Trump isn't going to do mass deportations of DREAMers or DACA recipients. Trump wants to have a "big heart" and obviously he opposes mass deportations because of that. Not to mention that mass deportations would be blocked by Congress or tied up in the courts for years.

Please sign today and let your friends know via social networks and email. Also, please reach out to talk show hosts and major Trump backers and ask them to support the petition. Supporting a plan like this will help Trump where supporting amnesty undercuts him to his base.

If anyone has a better plan to stop amnesty that's workable and that Trump would support, then by all means start a petition for that.

(Note: the URL's very long but a shorter version is bit.ly/stopamnesty ).


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; petition; trumpdaca; whdacapetition; whpetition
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1 posted on 09/19/2017 3:15:49 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

And... what’s preventing them from just taking the money and returning again as soon as they get it?


2 posted on 09/19/2017 3:18:40 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The Wall? Comprehensive immigration reform?

I can dream, can’t I?


3 posted on 09/19/2017 3:22:04 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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No deal. I voted for mass deportations. Send em all home. This earthquake is a tragedy for mist of the DACAs home country of Mexico. I know, let’s repatriate them all back to Mexico and Abu Dhabi. Think of all the doctors, engineers, scientists, and architects Mexico will enjoy with all the Dreamers back in Mejico. They will rebuild and thrive and make Mexico prosperous


4 posted on 09/19/2017 3:23:20 PM PDT by Sign Petition to Arrest Comey
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Swap out the 30 million illegals with the millions who applied lawfully and are waiting to enter LEGALLY. Problem solved! Trump wins, Republicans win


5 posted on 09/19/2017 3:25:55 PM PDT by 4Liberty (MSM: Democrat's PR firm)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s an implementation detail. The money - which wouldn’t be much - would be tied to them not coming here illegally again. There could be severe penalties for coming here illegally again, as there is for those who are deported.


6 posted on 09/19/2017 3:27:02 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

We owe them NOTHING MORE, and I’ll be damned if I’ll add insult to injury at this point.

There’s not a snowball’s chance in Hell I’ll sign on to this.

People who are here illegally, MUST BE DEPORTED!

Evidently some folks just don’t give a damn what the laws of our nation are.


7 posted on 09/19/2017 3:27:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (DACA: Their dream, our nightmare... will the rule of law prevail or not?)
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To: 4Liberty

Swamping this nation with 30 million people, is NEVER a good idea. The logic seemed sound on first blush, but this isn’t a better solution.


8 posted on 09/19/2017 3:28:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (DACA: Their dream, our nightmare... will the rule of law prevail or not?)
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To: Sign Petition to Arrest Comey

Trump has repeatedly hinted he supports legalizing DREAMers, going back over a year. The chances of him doing a 180 and supporting mass deportations is nil or close to it. And, any attempt to do mass deportations would be stopped by Congress or tied up in the courts for years. Trump can’t even keep out visitors from Somalia, he’s not going to be able to round up and deport a few million or so.


9 posted on 09/19/2017 3:30:21 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Amnesty is amnesty. And with chain migration the 800,000 turns into 8,000,000.


10 posted on 09/19/2017 3:30:24 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

maybe if the money was delayed .. for several years conditional on them not returning during that time with accompanying proof that they are indeed now living and have been living in their countries of birth.

Because otherwise ... they will get the money, and then either immediately return and be here AND have the money, OR a democrat or RINO president after Trump will just allow them to return, make them citizens AND let them keep the money!


11 posted on 09/19/2017 3:31:48 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

It wouldn’t get tied up in the courts

Everything he attempts is going to get tied up in court.


12 posted on 09/19/2017 3:32:03 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

It wouldn’t get tied up in the courts

Everything he attempts is going to get tied up in court.


13 posted on 09/19/2017 3:32:07 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: 4Liberty

“Swap out the 30 million illegals with the millions who applied lawfully and are waiting to enter LEGALLY. Problem solved! Trump wins, Republicans win”

The American middle class loses.

At any given point in time, there are only so many American Dreams to go around.

The only way these Mexicans can get them is to steal them from my children. F that and F them.


14 posted on 09/19/2017 3:34:43 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Can’t imagine that he wants to legalize them after the way they act. Self entitled bunch demanding things they have no right to demand. I bet Pelosi wants them gone too after the way they treated her. Too bad she won’t say out loud what she really probably thinks.


15 posted on 09/19/2017 3:35:15 PM PDT by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

“If you oppose amnesty, then you have to give him an alternative plan.”

Um, NO!

If he opposes deportations, then he has to give us an alternative plan. And it’s NOT amnesty.


16 posted on 09/19/2017 3:35:39 PM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

We’ve already given them a lot more than we owed them....which is nothing.
Stupid plan and petition.


17 posted on 09/19/2017 3:39:41 PM PDT by sheana
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To: dandiegirl

I agree with you.

Last year this time I said, “Trump will do many things that I will be thrilled to have done, but there will also be things I don’t support at all.”

That is life. It’s how things work.

Overall, Trump is a Godsend.


18 posted on 09/19/2017 3:42:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (DACA: Their dream, our nightmare... will the rule of law prevail or not?)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

According to the Heritage Foundation, there are approximately 3.7 million unlawful immigrant households in the U.S. These households impose a current net fiscal burden of around $54.5 billion per year to the American taxpayer. Amnesty for unlawful immigrants will pose a future higher fiscal cost for U.S. taxpayers including public education, welfare benefits, and other benefits and services that they can’t start to pay by themselves and more will be illegally crossing so policymakers cannot ensure that the interaction of welfare and other financial transfer programs with the current illegal and future immigrants does not expand the fiscally dependent population.

So it all comes down to this in a nut shell: the currents couldn’t pay their bill while illegally being here. They can’t pay the future bill. And we can expect more illegals to pile up while we are giving this set a free walk. And we cannot expect the libs to try some other way to get more in for an even bigger bill for the taxpayer to pay. It has to stop somewhere. Now’s the time.

The policy makers need to make it federal felony to illegally violate our border. If that happens and they can’t vote, let’s see how many liberal policies they throw up to protect them.

rwood


19 posted on 09/19/2017 3:46:54 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This petition *prevents* amnesty. It’s either something like this, or Trump is going to try to give amnesty.

Trump recently tweeted this:

“Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!”

and this:

“They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age. Plus BIG border security”

How can anyone read those tweets from @RealDonaldTrump and think he doesn’t want to legalize DREAMers/DACA?


20 posted on 09/19/2017 3:57:31 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
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