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Posted on 09/15/2017 8:43:16 AM PDT by V K Lee
UPDATE: From the Daily Caller just now: "House Agrees To $1.6 Billion For Border Wall."
ORIGINAL POST: The media crashed and burned last night over a Democratic Party lie about a deal on amnesty for some illegal aliens.
After a dinner with the president, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer said, “We agreed to enshrine the protections of DACA into law quickly, and to work out a package of border security, excluding the wall, that’s acceptable to both sides.”
There is no deal. The president said so this morning. Pelosi and Schumer jumped the gun because they hope to gain leverage in a situation in which the president holds the trump card.
Everybody who panicked about this Fake News was a fool. That includes Representative Steve King, a Republican from Iowa, whom I like.
A lie travels around the world before the truth puts its shoes on.
People who railed against President Trump for "caving" made two mistakes.
They believed Pelosi and Schumer. They believed the media.
Me? I trusted President Trump.
I read their statement and knew it was a lie, or to be kind, an embroidery of the truth.
The reason tip-off were the words, "excluding the wall."
Of course the wall was excluded.
It's off the table.
President Trump has authorization for it. A 2006 law made it so. He is not going to relinquish that authority.
But there is no Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals law. It does not exist. DACA is an executive order, at best a blanket use of prosecutorial discretion.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions called it as unconstitutional.
Trump let the Pelosi-Schumer lie slide until this morning. He literally lost no sleep over it because their lie helps him in negotiations, and that is what they are doing: negotiating.
The only agreement they came to was what to talk about.
He made it plain to them that the wall is not negotiable.
Today, he tweeted:
"No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote. The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built."
Got that? The wall is off the table.
Pelosi and Schumer's bargaining position is weak. They are in the minority.
But they do have a position, and they seem to be surrogates for Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. Either man could stop a floor vote on any agreement
They won't.
This is a do-nothing Congress. Donald Trump's is a very active presidency. Contrast and compare. Congress needs leadership. Trump will provide it.
Meanwhile, anyone who said he caved on the wall is a fool.
Assuming that Trump wants legalization of all of the "Dreamers," a big assumption, what will the Dems accept? Will they want a path to citizenship, something Trump is unwilling to do?
Will they accept revisiting the screening of all DACA recipients to ensure that they meet the requirements still to be worked out? Obama approved 99.4% of all applicants for DACA. We know that there was widespread fraud and just cursory checks. We also know that many of these "children" were unaccompanied and were not brought to the US by their parents. What kind of documents do they have that can verify their identities, age, etc.? Will those who have committed crimes be ordered deported? What crimes will be considered?
The Dems will be put in hard spot as well because they will have to compromise on the rules that specify who is eligible or not and whether they will accept anything less than a path to citizenship. And what other concessions are they willing to make in terms of things like mandatory e-verify, sanctuary cities, and other interior enforcement provisions. Or the Raise Act?
The Dems and the open border RINOs have always held enforcement hostage to amnesty. The tables have been reversed. If they want DACA recipients legalized (amnesty), then they will have to make concessions on enforcement. Trump is already doing a far better job on enforcement of our existing immigration laws than Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43, and Obama combined. How far will the Dems and the RINOs go to protect DACA recipients rather than defend US workers and the safety of our citizens? DACA recipients average age is 24. They are taking jobs from Americans.
IMO Congress will have a hard time coming up with a consensus on a bill in 6 months. Trump can then announce his own approach, which we know will not be an unconstitutional Executive Order. The ball is in Congress's court.
Purging anyone you disagree with isn’t a very conservative position.
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Not to the point where you have people on this board who clearly despise our President, and relentlessly spout negative propaganda in order to separate him from his supporters.
We don’t tolerate DU propagandists here. Never-Trumpers shouldn’t be treated any differently.
“We don’t tolerate DU propagandists here. Never-Trumpers shouldn’t be treated any differently”
AMEN!!!
AMEN!!!
and...
AMEN!!!
Hey - it’s not rain running down your leg.
And yet they serve... anyways, just win the argument. Don’t be afraid of it. Being on the side of deporting everyone no questions asked is fine by me but you have to win the argument in my opinion. It’s an issue currently being debated so win the debate. No reason to go crazy over it. Nothing has been formally introduced yet
Courts have alreadly rule DACA illegal. There was no reason for Trump to continue it beyond January 20. There is no reason for Trump to continue it through March of next year.
He said it would be rescinded. He said illegals “have to go”.
Now that he’s been elected he is reneging on his central campaign issue.
Every single disparagement you throw my way increases my laughter at your inability to be persuasive.
So please, carry on. I’m having fun :)
Illegal aliens do NOT serve in the military.
They are prohibited from enlisting.
You are buying the propaganda.
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You are too stupid to see what is plainly in front of you.
Trump made it very clear that he desires amnesty.
You can cover your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears but it doesn’t change what Trump said.
“Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA (something the Obama Administration was unable to do). If they can’t, I will revisit this issue!”
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/905228667336499200
Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!.....
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908276308265795585
...They have been in our country for many years through no fault of their own - brought in by parents at young age. Plus BIG border security
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908278070611779585
“He said it would be rescinded.”
DACA has been rescinded. You aren’t paying attention perhaps because your focused on what you imagine is running down someone’s leg. :)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-dreamers-daca-immigration-announcement-n798686
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/trump-rescinds-daca-leaving-undocumented-youth-unshielded/
http://www.dw.com/en/trump-administration-rescinds-daca-program-for-young-dreamers/a-40370268
Saw a whole bunch of freepers crash burn over the story right here. To quote our president, “So sad.”
“You are too stupid to see what is plainly in front of you.”
Aww your skills at persuasion are soooooooo impressive. /s
“Trump made it very clear that he desires amnesty.”
Only to those who despise him.
Direct quote from Ray76:
“Trump made it very clear that he desires amnesty.”
Direct quote from Donald Trump:
“There will be no amnesty”
will allow any DACA recipients with a permit set to expire before March 5, 2018, the opportunity to apply for a two-year renewal if they apply by October 5. - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-dreamers-daca-immigration-announcement-n798686
That is a continuation of DACA.
There is NO REASON to continue the lawlessness. They are illegal aliens and must be deported.
Already I have anti-Trump "conservatives" and liberals say to me, "I told you so." Ughh!
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