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To: zzzz8

The story as reported doesn’t really help determine if he was guilty. The claim was that either she was too drunk to consent, or, as the charge indicated, he drugged her.

The way the drugs work, they don’t make you pass out, it’s not like you have to carry the drugged person out of the bar.

And the video doesn’t clearly show that she is not drunk. ANd if she was drunk, or drugged, it should not make any difference if she was the “instigator”. Of course, if he drugged her, the whole point would be to get to that end game, and if he looked reluctant, that would be an act.

Now, it didn’t look from the clips that she was all that drunk. Since there’s a person where she signed in, I’d like to hear what they said about her state.

But the date rape drug could well present this way. I don’t know if they had any evidence at all that such a drug was used, and I’m certainly not saying I think he is guilty. Just that I’m not sure the video makes me dismiss the case without hearing other evidence.

I’d like to hear from her friend, who was interacting with her. Is making obscene gestures a normal thing, or is it a sign of drunken stupor? Did the guy at the desk think she was about to pass out? Is there any evidence the guy had purchased date rape drugs, and sign of them in her system?


5 posted on 08/04/2017 1:36:38 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Or maybe it happened the way he said.


6 posted on 08/04/2017 1:43:38 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The claim was that either she was too drunk to consent, or, as the charge indicated, he drugged her.

Neither of which allegations are proven by the clip either. And since it's her obligation to prove the charge -- not his to prove his innocence -- she ain't got squat.

20 posted on 08/04/2017 2:59:39 PM PDT by IronJack
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