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To: tbw2
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He makes some very good points. But I believe Bill Whittle boils it down even better:

Bill Whittle recently said in his "What We Believe" videos (which I heartily recommend to anyone identifying as a conservative, and anyone not identified as such who is curious about conservatism. I watched it with two friends last night, and we all wanted to stand up and cheer!) said that when boiled down, universally, conservatives fundamentally believe in three things:

1.) Humans are not perfectable and are flawed by nature

2.) Humans are motivated by self-interest

3.) Human nature does not change dramatically

Leftists view this as a selfish, jaded, and cynical outlook. I think it is simply realistic. But one could take the obverse of these (that humans are perfectable and Utopia may be achieved, that Altruism is as powerful a motivator as self-interest, and that human nature may be changed) and define liberalism perfectly, with the accompanying historical confirmation going back hundreds (if not thousands) of years, that those assumptions are inherently dangerous and destructive, and have led to more bloodshed than nearly anything else, at least in the last century or so.

7 posted on 07/21/2017 7:10:12 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: rlmorel

Bill Whittle is the best. His essays at his old website ( http://ejectejecteject.com ) are some of the finest, most inspiring conservative pieces you will ever read.


12 posted on 07/21/2017 8:01:55 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: rlmorel

This is where the “Real War” is occurring.

What we believe.

The foundations of those beliefs.

Not long ago I asked my 21 year old Daughter, “What does it take to change a persons Worldview?” Without hesitation she replied “Crisis”.

The Left has been working overtime since the 1960’s to remove any and all potential crisis from peoples lives.

The Soviets made sure their people had plenty of Vodka and the Western Progressives make sure we are “entertained” with mindless, endless and meaningless media that overload their senses with so much nonsense that the Truth, a Truth, is only accessible to those that “Need” to really understand what’s going on.

It gets worse.

They have co-opted science and what we think we know to be true with Quantum Physics and its “Uncertainty” to suggest that “Nothing” can be certain.

“Everything is Broken up and Dances”


13 posted on 07/21/2017 8:03:34 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: rlmorel

No Science, No Logic and No Morality: Atheism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxz84kS8k4U

Just to give you an idea of what, otherwise very intelligent people are being taught.


16 posted on 07/21/2017 8:12:46 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: rlmorel

On the idea that humans are perfectable, especially as leftist think of perfection...

It has been said that Karl Marx, on reading Darwin’s work, hammered off a note to his partner in crime that he had found a basis in natural science for their beliefs.

I believe this needs to be looked at honestly in light of how the left says the various gulag states were somehow not what was intended.

The crux of my point is that Marx must have recognized that if there could be “natural selection” so too could there be unnatural selection, that the state could through enduring social manipulation take humans who were not fit to live in a communist society that Marx postulated could be altered in their basic nature to be such communistic creatures.

So for every lefty going on vapidly about how the communist ideal is stateless and government-less realize that they have been sold a bill of bads and are mindlessly passing it on. All the horrors, the tyranny, and the injustices meted out on human beings unfit for communism is exactly what Marx wanted. I’m not even gonna give the scumbag leeway to say that he underestimated the time and effort needed to force communistic “evolution” till these man-like communist beings (for in not sharing our nature they would not be Man as we are) could exist at all. Rather the untold generations to suffer that the new men might be made was just breaking eggs to make omelets and the left is far too dishonest to ever admit it.

Likewise Lysenkoism isn’t far from Marx, for if unnatural selection could be deemed likely to change Man into commu-mannish then why couldn’t there be a socialistic nature too?


20 posted on 07/22/2017 8:03:21 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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