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To: Fhios

“Consider the fact that Police have been being assassinated, even in their vehicles.”-—This we know to be true and officers are well served to be vigilant, but I would like to add that citizens benefit from that self-same vigilance as being seated in a car is tactically disadvantageous, no more so evident that when being the victim of a car jacking.

“That in conjunction with his cultural disdain for women is what likely led to the shooting.”-—This has not be truly established, only promoted to serve the beliefs of the most virulent anti-muslim crowd here on FR.

*disclaimer- I do not wish to joinder with muslims and wish they were back in their own environs, however it is counter to my principles that a man be accused of a crime simply because he is an adherent to a religious belief system at odds with my own.


121 posted on 07/21/2017 12:54:38 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (In Safe Space, no one can hear you weep....No one cares either.)
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To: Molon Labbie

Well, with the number of citizens being shot/killed/wounded by officers of the law, it seems we ( non-qualified immunity folks) have reason to be concerned about our safety in the presence of those uniformed civilians who are now apparently so jittery and defensive, we should assume ( like every cop must, right?) that every encounter is capable of becoming a deadly threat environment.

Is that the converse of your statement?

I fear no man, but I do fear institutional force. Are you all getting on the bus? If you guys are, you probably ought to resign/retire and make pottery or something.

Otherwise, I have great respect for all first responders, being one myself.

Regarding Noor’s situation- I agree that murder one is off the table- murder 2, I think it likely, but as you stated- it would be a long stretch for a prosecutor to prove beyond reasonable doubt, negligent homicide? ( he will make it easy for the defense, after all it will be about money in the end, right?) Probably convictable, but not likely correct; so, in the end, he will be acquitted of M2, and the department and city will pay a billion in civil costs. Maybe later a federal investigation in civil rights violations will hold him liable.

Justine will still be shot dead, by a cop who had no cause to even be handling his weapon.

Justice for Justine will not come from the legal system, it killed her after all.


190 posted on 07/21/2017 6:06:45 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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