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1 posted on 07/03/2017 6:20:40 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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She was the half sister of his deceased wife (Jefferson’s father in law fathered Sally off one of his slaves) and probably resembled her. Whether Thomas Jefferson was the father of her children is open to question. But she was far more than a “maid”. In many respects slaves were more akin to family than hired help would have been and the whole “peculiar institution” was far more complex than most people can imagine.


102 posted on 07/03/2017 7:50:09 PM PDT by katana
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She was the half sister of his deceased wife (Jefferson’s father in law fathered Sally off one of his slaves) and probably resembled her. Whether Thomas Jefferson was the father of her children is open to question. But she was far more than a “maid”. In many respects slaves were more akin to family than hired help would have been and the whole “peculiar institution” was far more complex than most people can imagine.


103 posted on 07/03/2017 7:50:13 PM PDT by katana
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Well, as long as they pay reparations to themselves....


105 posted on 07/03/2017 7:53:42 PM PDT by PAR35
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DNA proved that only her last child, a son, was a Jefferson. But which Jefferson is in question as Thomas’ DNA was never acquired or tested. His age alone might put question on this parentage.


129 posted on 07/03/2017 8:24:43 PM PDT by MHT (,`)
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Fake news. There is absolutely no proof, not even a suggestion of proof, that Hemings had 6 children by Thomas Jefferson.

Lies, and damn lies.


201 posted on 07/03/2017 10:13:32 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Trump: What to do now I can't repeal Obamacare? I know, lets start a war with Russia!)
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The historian Stephen Ambrose believed that it was Thomas Jefferson’s brother who had bedded Sally, not Thomas.


208 posted on 07/03/2017 10:56:48 PM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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In my view Bodleian_Girl has presented compelling evidence that Thomas Jefferson was the father of Sally Hemmings children. More, she has presented compelling evidence in an estimable fashion refraining from personal invective or responding to personal invective but rather making resort to the factual records and providing citations for every fact adduced.

The DNA is irrefutable and demonstrates that the children of Sally Hemmings (or at least one or two children) are descended from Thomas Jefferson or, conceivably, his brother Randolph.

It is absurd to believe that the DNA was generated fraudulently to confirm a false narrative. It is important to note that the narrative was created long before the DNA report. Indeed, the narrative was widely published as early as at the turn of the 19th century. It is therefore not possible to argue that the narrative was created to exploit an ambiguity in the DNA.

The DNA fails to contradict the narrative in any respect and in fact confirms the narrative that Thomas Jefferson was the father Sally Hemmings' children.

The historical record, that is contemporary accounts some of them in Thomas Jefferson's own hand, confirm that only Thomas Jefferson could have been the father because he and he alone was in proximity to Sally Hemmings at the times of her conception.

The contemporary records rule out Thomas Jefferson's brother because he was not in proximity to Sally at the times of conception. The DNA rules out the Carr nephews. By the process of elimination, Thomas Jefferson is almost certainly the father in question.

In addition to the narrative, in addition to the DNA, in addition to the contemporary accounts which rule out competing male donors, there are numerous contemporary accounts attesting to physical resemblance of the children to Thomas Jefferson and a general belief by those who are in a position to know that these children of Sally Hemmings were in fact fathered by Thomas Jefferson.

We have the actions of Thomas Jefferson in manumitting two of these children, when he maintained Sally adjacent to his boudoir, when he permitted other of her children simply to walk away from slavery when he failed to free any other slave not related to Sally Hemmings. We have the widespread custom of plantation owners to lie with their female slaves. We have the fact that Sally Hemmings was the half sister of Jefferson's beloved wife. We have many testimonies of the physical beauty of Sally Hemmings. We have her by some accounts acting as the mistress of Monticello in many respects.

Against all of this we have the bland and ridiculous assertions of many on this thread that all of this evidence "would not stand up in any court." Of course most of this evidence would be admissible and it would be persuasive. Against this accumulation of very persuasive evidence there is virtually nothing to the contrary. One can conclude from what we know that the evidence shows by more than a preponderance but indeed by a clear and convincing degree that Thomas Jefferson was the father of Sally Hemmings' children.


219 posted on 07/04/2017 3:14:14 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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fltr


222 posted on 07/04/2017 3:49:03 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (I remember when 100% of scientists agreed there were only 2 genders.)
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Whoever the father of Sally’s children was, I hope she didn’t hate his guts since she didn’t seem to have much choice in the matter. It’s too bad she didn’t leave an account of her interesting life.


252 posted on 07/04/2017 12:21:02 PM PDT by Cecily
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What a strange coincidence that this story was published on July 4th.


255 posted on 07/04/2017 2:05:46 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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It is believed that Jefferson kept his six children as slaves until they came of age, at which point he freed them one by one.

That's one way to make sure the homework gets done. :)

271 posted on 07/04/2017 5:41:28 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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bump


275 posted on 07/04/2017 6:17:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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