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To: edh

While there original Star Trek was maybe not as overt in Socialism, they had some sort of monetary system.

That was not the case in STTNG. I can remember an episode where Picard told someone that there was no money and people worked only for the benefit of Mankind and the Alliance. Absolute Pure Utopia that cannot and will not ever exist unless you breed all traits out of humans.


17 posted on 05/19/2017 11:40:46 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

“I can remember an episode where Picard told someone that there was no money”

True, but in the very first STTNG episode, Dr. Crusher bought some rug (or something) on that Farpoint planet and requested that “credits be transferred from her account” :-) .

Also, you can’t have socialism/communism w/o the social engineering ... of course, they’ll probably tweak Star Trek to show how the schools of the future handle that :-).

Then again, the more I think about it, Leningrad did exist in Star Trek IV ... :-) ... I guess I am completely wrong as only filthy, red scum would revive the name of that tyrant.


22 posted on 05/19/2017 11:46:01 AM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I remember that.
My response would have been “Wonderful! Mankind’s dream is finally achieved. Soooo, where do I pick my starship and get my operator training before I set out on my life of space tourism and adventure?”


40 posted on 05/19/2017 12:48:31 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
That was not the case in STTNG. I can remember an episode where Picard told someone that there was no money and people worked only for the benefit of Mankind and the Alliance.

Watch Jake Sisko try to borrow money from a Ferengi on Deep Space 9

42 posted on 05/19/2017 12:56:53 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie
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To: Captain Peter Blood
That was not the case in STTNG. I can remember an episode where Picard told someone that there was no money and people worked only for the benefit of Mankind and the Alliance. Absolute Pure Utopia that cannot and will not ever exist unless you breed all traits out of humans.

The Federation, not the Alliance

The Alliance. Absolute Pure Utopia was the Firefly/Serenityverse.

Boy #1 (Borodin): Why ere the independents even fighting us? Why wouldn't they look to be more civilized?
Teacher: ...With all the social and medical advancements we can bring to the independents, why would they fight so hard against us?
Young River: We meddle. People don't like to be meddled with, we tell them what to do, what to think, don't run don't walk we're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We meddle.

.....

Mal: This report is maybe twelve years old. Parliament buried it, and it stayed buried till River dug it up. This is what they feared she knew. And they were right to fear, because there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it, too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people. You all got on this boat for different reasons, but you all come to the same place. So now I'm asking more of you than I have before. Maybe all. Sure as I know anything I know this, they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten, they'll swing back to the belief that they can make people…better. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I aim to misbehave.


52 posted on 05/19/2017 6:35:07 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (41)
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