Posted on 05/07/2017 5:13:22 AM PDT by brucedickinson
In an upcoming BBC program, Stephen Hawking has a new message for humanity: Get off Earth within the next 100 years or perish. In order to survive as a species, humans must colonize other planets.
But Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield has previously said that humans just aren't ready to live on other worlds. In 2015, he visited Business Insider to discuss his thoughts on where humans will go next and why.
Hadfield became a mainstream figure thanks to his YouTube videos from space and wide social media presence. Now retired, Hadfield is the best-selling author of "An Astronaut's Guide to Life on Earth."
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
Re-introduce manual farm labor to keep them busy? Support them on “disability” for life (and the lives of their offspring?)
Pay for it out of the Magic Money Machine?
They can fill paid civil service positions in the upcoming re-branded AHCA Big Government Single Payer Healthcare Insurance Agency. They can process claims between their own "free" disability medical appointments.
Matt Damon proved it. But hey, let's keep sending Hollyweirdos there till we get it right. Please.
“... One very good use of LEGAL immigration is to import smart people from around the globe, BTW... ..”
Didn’t this use to be the case of immigration?
We let in people who as a minimum were capable of just supporting themselves let alone compete for Nobel prizes in Chemistry & Physics.
True at least until the Rats realized they needed more malleable voters. The numbers of “gimmiedats”, educrats & sexual deviants weren’t increasing fast enough.
I think the UK Labor party did the “proof-of-concept”.
the more I listen to steepen hawking’s the more I think he is only a man with above average intelligence with a savant skill in math and a hyper focused interest cosmology. anyone looking for him to have anything important to say outside of math is fooling themselves and the only place where he might have something profound to say is in cosmology.
It’s a pipe dream. Humans will never “colonize” Mars. Any spacecraft that manages to make the arduous journey will be destroyed by the violent galestorms that sweep the planet with winds hundreds of miles strong, not to mention unsustainable surface temperatures and deadly radiation. Also, no water, so everything necessary for survival would need to be brought along. God created Earth as a habitation for humankind.
Let’s see...
“It’s a pipe dream. Humans will never “colonize” Mars. Any spacecraft that manages to make the arduous journey will be destroyed by the violent galestorms that sweep the planet with winds hundreds of miles strong,”
The atmosphere on Mars is only 1% as dense as Earth’s. Therefore high winds won’t be a problem at almost any point. As a matter of fact, that was the part of “The Martian” I found least believable.
“not to mention unsustainable surface temperatures and deadly radiation.”
The first thing to be done (and perhaps before any humans arrive) will be to build underground habitats. Those provide stable temperatures and radiation shielding. Nuclear reactors and solar panels can provide plenty of power.
“Also, no water, so everything necessary for survival would need to be brought along.”
That is simply not correct. There’s evidence for very substantial amounts of water, both in the polar caps and underground. Liquid water flows producing erosion have happened since we’ve been observing the surface in detail.
All that said, we should begin by colonizing the Moon for sure...
“God created Earth as a habitation for humankind.”
Along with the rest of the Universe... :-)
“Chance is only increased if the precise location is known...”
But all rabbits are going to know where other rabbits are, and where the original home warren is right? Also, if rabbits are low enough power to be destroyed in the first place it seems like they probably didn’t go too far from the other rabbits, you look to see what is in the relatively nearby area in likely places.
Of course we don’t know what technology will do as far as the ease of searching, hunting, or hiding, I guess I mostly imagine robotic probe scouts. Yeah, you would need good tech to make certain nothing was ever traced back to you somehow in case a weaker hunter finds a stronger hunter.
“Stay home and be quiet is always the best option...”
It could be the urge to explore is just exceedingly rare. Hard for us to imagine, but then we only have one example to go by, us. Also it could be that once you reach a certain technical level of civilization everyone inevitably falls into a virtual reality hole, and is content living in fake paradise or something. Neat stuff to think about for sure.
Freegards
Many of Hawkings conclusions are in fact based on incomplete date. For example his recent reversal on decades long insistance that black holes do not absorb information . While not all his work, he adheres to the Lamda Cold Dark Matter model, which is full of incomplete and downright fictional math.
“But all rabbits are going to know where other rabbits are ...”
That of course is an assumption which destroys your argument, sadly.
Time, distance, the shock of never returning home, normal forgetfulness, calamity - all those and more mitigate against the rabbits knowing where all the other rabbits are.
On that note, there is some biological evidence that we may be someone’s scattered rabbit ... (why do we need such big eyes? Among other unanswered biological questions.)
I think it’s more likely that once we get the interstellar capabilities we don’t lose the knowledge of where Sol is, and yes that’s just as much an assumption as the inevitable losing of that that knowledge. How can any argument be destroyed when it has never happened yet as far as we know? I mean if there are hunters out there seems like they would make sure that any colony they find isn’t the only colony of that civilization, why wouldn’t they given they are hunters?
Freegards
“I think it’s more likely that once we get the interstellar capabilities we don’t lose the knowledge of where Sol is ...”
Of course, you remember exactly, the very spot on the globe, where the first modern human lived ...
The continent of Africa will not do ... only the very spot -
And in 1960 we weren’t ready for the moon. There’s only one way to get ready: have a goal.
Well socialists want/require most people to be dumb, to follow the inner party leaders, and not be smart enough to be able to successfully revolt and overthrow them.
I don’t think it is likely our computers will forget where Sol is, or that we will lose our computers or how to interact with them or whatever.
Freegards
We don’t even have the technology for the necessary radiation shielding. We are not going anywhere if we cannot protect from radiation caused cancer and genetic mutation of our sexual organs.
Will they remember how to use the computer or what the words mean?
We don’t even need genetic mutation of our sexual
organs, we’ve already got mental mutation of our
sexual organs.
And what about our precious bodily fluids?
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