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To: discostu

“You can’t have it both ways. If Luke needed Han to explain space travel to him then his piloting an X-Wing is way more Marty than Rey’s mediocre Falcon flying. Take you pick. Meanwhile, out here in reality, as I already posted but you didn’t bother to read: HAN DID NOT EXPLAIN SPACE TRAVEL TO LUKE. He was telling Luke to stop whining that they hadn’t gotten away yet.”

Fine, then, he’s a Marty Stu. Happy? And I DID read, and last I checked, he still told him that hyperdrives aren’t like crop-dusting, not say “STFU” or even a simple “Shut up.”

“If complaining makes you sick you must have been in the bathroom for 2 days now. You demonstrably LOVE to complain. Because that’s what you’ve been doing. All your hyperbole is proved to be a lie by the fact that here you complaining and complaining and complaining and complaining. If you didn’t love it, you’d just stop.”

No, actually, I’m being honest. I really do hate complaints, whether by me, or by anyone else. If I see an argument on TV, I actually get tense and actually at times say out loud that they should stop. If I can’t even handle arguments being done on TV, I certainly can’t handle it in real life (in fact, when my parents argued, I even requested that they get a divorce if they’re going to argue, which, BTW, they didn’t, and when Dad was yelling into the phone at one point, I used my getting fries as an excuse to get away. I even nearly ran away from home when mom started yelling due to stress.). My parents can even confirm all of that, as they witnessed those actions. And for the record, doing that kind of stuff all the time =/= loving it. Most kids go to school all the time. Last I checked, most kids HATED going to school. And I’ve also witnessed a few teachers who actually HATED teaching and more than made clear that they hated it, more than a few times, one even declaring openly that he’d rather be at an OWS Atlanta rally than proctoring exams. Just because you might love to complain doesn’t mean everyone does.

And yes, I am aware that Luke is bound by his aunt and uncle and probably can’t afford a ship, but on the other hand, he DOES have that T-45 Skyhopper.


98 posted on 04/19/2017 6:34:11 PM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e

Never mind, the T-15 Skyhopper doesn’t work in space, I’ll concede the point there.


99 posted on 04/19/2017 6:42:06 PM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e

Also, I don’t use hyperbole. I try to be as honest and accurate as possible, so, yes, I actually DO mean I would destroy everything, no hyperbole, just to get rid of all bad things, at least, I would if the 10 commandments didn’t constrain me.

I might as well add, regarding your comment about propaganda, that it was Joseph Goebbels who said, and I quote, “A lie told often enough would become truth.” And bear in mind, Goebbels was the head of the propaganda department of Nazi Germany, meaning he KNEW a key ingredient to propaganda is outright lying to people.


100 posted on 04/19/2017 6:46:04 PM PDT by otness_e
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It’s the tone, also keep in mind movie characters are often talking to the audience not each other. An author friend of mine refers to those as “as you know Dr Watson” scenes because the character being spoken already knows what’s being imparted but the audience doesn’t. Han saying that line tells the audience there’s a lead up time to jumps to hyperspace and that it can be messed with. It’s a method that goes back to the earliest entertainments because very few things can handle 4th wall breaks but sometimes you need to tell the audience something. Happens a lot in SF and fantasy because they’ve got made up worlds with made up physics and hopefully the author came up with some rules and things will work a lot better if the audience understands some of those rules. Obi-wan tell Han about the Force is another one of those, there’s no way anybody gets to Han’s age in that universe without at least hearing the pitch, he remembers the Republic and rule by Jedi, he didn’t need that explanation, but we did.


101 posted on 04/20/2017 7:43:55 AM PDT by discostu (Stand up and be counted, for what you are about to receive.)
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