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Banks scramble to fix old systems as IT 'cowboys' ride into sunset
Reuters ^ | 10 April 2017 | Anna Irrera

Posted on 04/11/2017 5:59:49 AM PDT by blueplum

Bill Hinshaw is not a typical 75-year-old. He divides his time between his family – he has 32 grandchildren and great-grandchildren – and helping U.S. companies avert crippling computer meltdowns.
Hinshaw, who got into programming in the 1960s when computers took up entire rooms and programmers used punch cards, is a member of a dwindling community of IT veterans who specialize in a vintage programming language called COBOL.
[snip] Experienced COBOL programmers can earn more than $100 an hour when they get called in to patch up glitches, rewrite coding manuals or make new systems work with old.
For their customers such expenses pale in comparison with what it would cost to replace the old systems altogether, not to mention the risks involved.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: cobol; financialsystems; it
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Something to think about as a career move, guys and gals. I've been talking about the shortage in machine language folks for the manufacturing industry, and the banking/financial industry is just as desperate for troubleshooters.
1 posted on 04/11/2017 5:59:49 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: IncPen

ping


2 posted on 04/11/2017 6:01:23 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: blueplum

One of the cool things about getting old is that wonderful new software you help develop when you were a youngster is now an antique supported by no-one except a few old timers who knows how it works.

Management is so stupid and incompetent they can’t seem to replace the system—over and over again they hire contractors who fail. Successful software development projects should be called the eighth wonder of the world—there is a rumor they exist somewhere but they sure are hard to find.


3 posted on 04/11/2017 6:03:52 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: blueplum

I went from COBOL to Java to Groovy/Grails. I may just go back to COBOL. I fixed several problems last week on a COBOL programmer.

ALL programmers in India learn COBOL. There is no shortage of COBOL programmers.
There is a shortage of people who want to do COBOL.


4 posted on 04/11/2017 6:04:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: blueplum

I am available for anyone needing to upgrade their cobol systems.

I can probably fit it onto a PC with a microsoft ACCESS database

Call me

(yes $100/hr)


5 posted on 04/11/2017 6:05:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)
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To: blueplum

I just took a break from coding a COBOL program to read this. Oh the irony.


6 posted on 04/11/2017 6:06:16 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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To: AppyPappy

It’s seen as a resume-killer by Millenials. Fools.


7 posted on 04/11/2017 6:06:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: blueplum
International Business Machines Corp, which sells the mainframe computers that run on COBOL....

Sure, just like a car runs on gasoline.

8 posted on 04/11/2017 6:06:29 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: cgbg

We are converting from Oracle Forms to Groovy. The leads were panicking because we had to convert all that Forms code.
Oracle Forms is written in PL/SQL, which is the same language in Oracle Procedures and Functions. Just spin it to packages and call it from Groovy.


9 posted on 04/11/2017 6:07:03 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: blueplum

Let me know when FORTRAN makes a big comeback!


10 posted on 04/11/2017 6:10:56 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Why would anyone write a COBOL program? Java is much quicker. I write all my jobs in Java now using PL/SQL packages for the business logic.

The problems I fixed were due to a different compiler, which is one of the drawbacks of COBOL. I had another COBOL program that had a Linkage Section for a call to another COBOL program. That was a nightmare.


11 posted on 04/11/2017 6:11:55 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy
Why would anyone write a COBOL program?

One reason would be that Java hadn't been invented yet.

12 posted on 04/11/2017 6:13:04 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: AppyPappy

My IT department is 95% Indian. Not one of them works with COBOL. They do not want to go near a COBOL application. I am in the process of converting all COBOL programs to Oracle PL/SQL. They have Linux here and I have workd on shell scripts as well. COBOL - and IBM JCL - is/was a good foundation.


13 posted on 04/11/2017 6:15:28 AM PDT by kdr3
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To: blueplum

COBOL- It sounds like a name from Battlestar Galactica. I learned cobol in college. It was “new.” So was I.


14 posted on 04/11/2017 6:16:18 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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To: Interesting Times

Yes but they were writing it today.

We have a bunch of SQR programs. You don’t have to declare your variables in SQR. Worst language ever. You can fat finger a variable and it still compiles. It takes forever to figure it out.
Java is mixed case. That drives an old COBOLer like me nuts.


15 posted on 04/11/2017 6:16:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy
ALL programmers in India learn COBOL.

Riiiight....

16 posted on 04/11/2017 6:17:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kdr3

I just moved a Linux script to Production. I’m writing a ton of those things. It reminds me a bit of WFL on the old Burroughs mainframes.

if [ -f file.txt ]
is a lifesaver.


17 posted on 04/11/2017 6:21:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: blueplum

Interesting. I need to have a conversation with my wife about this.

She was a COBOL programmer before kids. The last one graduates home school high school in a week or two.

At $100 an hour, the odd job might be a good deal.


18 posted on 04/11/2017 6:24:16 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: blueplum

COBOL was designed in great part by Grace Hopper. Very amazing lady.


19 posted on 04/11/2017 6:27:09 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: blueplum

I used to do Assembler language for some banks in Nashville back in the 70’s. That’s what the Weiland DDA checking account system was written in. I wonder if anyone does Assembler anymore? Two AM reading a hex dump, those were the days.


20 posted on 04/11/2017 6:27:57 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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