Posted on 04/10/2017 7:57:44 PM PDT by Leaning Right
United used to be my "go to" airline when flying on business. Sure they cost more, but the service (back then...) was always good, it was consistent and I never seemed to have the airline horror stories that other folks had with other airlines. For all the years and all the flights I had to take over those years, never once did United lose my luggage or cause it to be late following me. "Back in the day" United was top notch in my book.
If we've learned anything about United Airlines lately it's that their overbooking policies suck, they think nothing of displacing people off a flight because of their overbooking policies, and then they say they "regretabbly had to "reaccommodate" some passengers."
This wasn't a "reaccommodation" ... it was flat out assault and battery. It was unnecessary. The four airline employees that needed to be in Louisville "the next day" could've gotten there by car for example, and that would've been a hell of a lot cheaper than paying $800 per passenger with overnight accommodations at some shithole airport hotel.
Then again, United could've put the four employees on another flight. What was the rush to put them on this one flight anyway?
Yes, United Airlines SUCKS and they deserve every bad piece of publicity they get from this. Period. Full Stop.
The airlines and TSA have generally been treating passengers like crap. I pretty much refuse to fly anymore.
> This was NOT United Airlines. <
I’ve read that elsewhere, and I just don’t get it. Every major news source is saying United Airlines, and the United Airlines CEO has issued a statement about the incident.
So either it’s a United flight, or some other flight that contracted out to United. Or am I missing something here?
“The CEO’s smug non-apology apology sure did not help. I’d be shorting them hardcore.”
Perhaps because the CEO of United Airlines isn’t the CEO of the airline involved. It happened on Republic Airways, a regional carrier.
This is the CEO of Republic Airways...and his salary if you’re interested:
As President and Chief Executive Officer at REPUBLIC AIRWAYS HLDGS INC, Bryan K. Bedford made $1,318,116 in total compensation. Of this total $475,000 was received as a salary, $0 was received as a bonus, $0 was received in stock options, $831,085 was awarded as stock and $12,031 came from other types of compensation.
Republic Airways serves United, Delta, and American.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_Airways_Holdings
Then why did United issue an apology?
See my post above.
Contracted (like an Embrauer aircraft flight) by United.
As in...
Operated By Republic Airlines Dba United Express
DBA means the buck stops with United.
See post 27
Tickets were sold by United.
“Then why did United issue an apology?”
THAT’S what I’d like to know!
See my post above.
Republic has their own CEO and management. They have their own pilots, flight attendants, and gate agents...etc. They are not interchangeable with United Airlines!
Defend this.
“Tickets were sold by United.”
If you would like to buy a ticket for any of the airlines here, you can buy them at a United ticket counter! The ticket will say United, but you will be flying one of these!
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Marketing/CustComm/Promotions/Pages/AirlinePartners.aspx
I worked for United Airlines for 36 years. United is NOT Republic Airways! Different management, CEO, staff...rules. The incident happened on Republic. Perhaps this will explain it. I posted it before, but I’ll post it again:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_Airline
Airline partners are different than dba/Contract for Carriage tickets.
I purchase tickets through United for Hawaiian Airlines. Hawaiian crew, aircraft, etc. Hawaiian is ultimately responsible for all particulars of the flight.
I purchase tickets through United for DBA (doing business as) United/United Express...which has a United crew, says United on the side of the plane and UNITED is responsible for ALL particulars of said flight.
Well, a report from Fortune (among many others) says the CEO involved is Oscar Munoz. Republic Airways CEO Bryan K. Bedford doesn’t seem to be involved at all.
From the link below:
The United Airlines CEO said the company will work “with a sense of urgency” to conduct a review of the “upsetting” incident in which security forcibly removed a man from an overbooked flight.
“This is an upsetting event to all of us here at United,” United CEO Oscar Munoz said in a statement Monday.
http://fortune.com/2017/04/10/united-airlines-ceo-passenger-removed-video-upsetting/
Good humor bump!
On Monday afternoon, United Airlines CEO Oscar Munoz issued the following statement about the incident:
“This is an upsetting event to all of us here at United. I apologize for having to re-accommodate these customers. Our team is moving with a sense of urgency to work with the authorities and conduct our own detailed review of what happened. We are also reaching out to this passenger to talk directly with him to address and resolve this situation.”
Why would United CEO even issue a statement, if they weren’t responsible? Where is the Republic CEO statement, if (as you’re saying) they’re responsible?
Then pray tell why the United CEO screwed the pooch with the apology and following email to employees.
Same damned airline with merely a corporate veil between them.
(Corporate veil is a legal term... look it up. By sticking his nose into this he pierced that veil. Piercing the veil makes United responsible for this as much as Republic legally speaking.)
Comments from a retired (2004) United Boeing 767 Captain:
1/ The incident in question occurred on a regional carrier CONTRACTED to conduct short haul flights by United Airlines.
2/Just because “United” is painted on the airplane means nothing - the agents in question were employed by the contract carrier.
3/ AND, for what it’s worth, there no longer is a United Airlines - it was bought out by Continental Airlines; they just kept the name.
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