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To: ctdonath2

Been debunked a million times. Where are the stars again? So we can see constellations?

No, I meant one real still photograph from space, and not a blue marble painting.

H.W. Bush’s visit to NASA shows they are using blue screens in the “space station”... at about 12 minutes here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1P0KL75fRg

I’ve shot blue screens before. This is complete BS. Trump has to know the truth, which is why he said the NASA thing he signed was “all about jobs”...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iza7lNy69g

“Top 10 Reasons I Don’t Believe NASA”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEE7OPKLhaM

I think the Bush/blue screen shot is in the middle of this Top 10 video, too.

As a Christian, I’m beginning to believe this NASA stuff is all about proving aliens started life on this planet, and not God. Where can I sue to get my childhood back from the astro-nots?

P.S. The Chinese moon footage is hysterical.


11 posted on 03/31/2017 7:52:10 AM PDT by Sontagged (Lord Jesus: please expose, unveil and then frogmarch Your enemies behind You as You've promised...)
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To: Sontagged

With stars: https://youtu.be/lYmGoE-PDBY


12 posted on 03/31/2017 8:19:55 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Understand the Left: "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution.")
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To: Sontagged

Obviously you don’t want to be convinced, so there is no way to convince you.

So what do you think we’re on? What shape is it? What does it look like? How would you go about getting far enough away from it to take a picture of it? In taking the picture, how would you deal with the orders of magnitude in brightness difference between what we’re on and the stars in the background?


13 posted on 03/31/2017 8:42:48 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Understand the Left: "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution.")
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To: Sontagged

It’s good to see that mentally retarded people like you can be taught to operate a keyboard and log onto a website. So inspirational! Can you feed yourself too?


19 posted on 03/31/2017 2:27:10 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Countries without Islamic immigration are countries without Islamic terrorism.)
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To: Sontagged; Moonman62; Syncro; xzins; All

Regarding flat earth in scripture, I’m not a biblical scholar but I think I can see why God would have explained things in the way the Israelites and other ancients would understand. Obviously, they did not have the scientific or technical knowledge in those days to fully comprehend concepts of time, space, dimensions, etc. In fact, I believe the bible says there are a whole lot of things man did not know and could not know or even should not know.

“The Circle of the Earth”
Translation and Meaning in Isaiah 40:22

Dennis Bratcher

Excerpts:

Isaiah 40:22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in;

Some people, for various reasons, take “the circle of the earth” in Isaiah 44:22 to be a reference to a spherical earth. This would mean that the ancient Israelites of the eighth century BC knew that the earth was spherical and not flat. This perspective shows up in arguments from both Young Earth Creationists -1- and from those wanting to argue an absolutely literal reading of the biblical text, usually to support the idea that God revealed modern scientific facts and data to the ancient Israelites.

Engaging those perspectives might prove helpful to many Christians trying to take seriously both the scientific world in which they live and the perspectives of Scripture that come from a world three to two millennia in the past. However before we can begin to engage that discussion, we must come to terms with what the Bible actually says and means, especially within the context of Ancient Near Eastern culture....

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Ancient people of 2,000 or 1,000 BC did not have modern scientific knowledge. Yet they developed perceptions of the physical world based on observations. It was certainly not scientific but practical, based on what they could observe simply by looking at the earth and sky.

People of the Ancient Near East, as well as ancient Hebrews and Israelites, conceptualized the world as a large, flat, circular disk anchored in water below (the deep, Prov 8:27, Gen 1:2, 49:25, etc.) by pillars or foundations (1 Sam 2:8, Prov 8:29, etc.). Between the earth and this deep was Sheol, the place of the dead. -2- The earth was covered by a “firmament,” conceived as a large solid upside down bowl or “dome” (Job 22:14, 37:18), in which the stars were placed (Gen 1:14-20). Above the dome was also water, which was the source of rain...

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hese references are not just isolated anomalies amidst an otherwise scientific grasp of the world. These conceptions are pervasive throughout the biblical narratives, not only in describing the physical world, but extended into metaphorical applications relating to other topics or even simply as ways to talk about the world and God. For example, creation hymns (Psa 33, 104, Hab 3, etc.) evoke these images as a form of praise. Or in the Babel story God must “come down” to see the puny work of humanity (Gen 11:5).

While there are many graphic depictions of ancient cosmology, we need to keep in mind that this was not a pictorial conception, but a functional and descriptive one. It is we in the modern world who tend to want visual imagery and reduce ideas to graphics and charts. Yet for ancient people this was simply a way of expressing what they saw about the operation of the physical world.

Also, we should not conclude that this way of talking about the physical world is what the Bible teaches as a reality, something in which we must believe in order to believe Scripture. Instead, this is the way ancient people talked about their experience of the world in the absence of any scientific knowledge about the processes at work in the world. Certainly we would describe the world today in much different terms. But then we live 3,000 years later in human history with much more knowledge about the physical world, and a different conceptual model and different vocabulary with which to describe the world.

We certainly affirm that Scripture is fully inspired by God (plenary inspiration; see Revelation and Inspiration of Scripture). Yet what is interesting is that even with inspiration, God allowed these ancient ways of looking at the world to stand without correction. In other words, God did not reveal modern scientific knowledge to the ancient Israelites, or correct their ancient views of the way the world works. He let them express marvelous truths about God in the language and culture in which they lived. That incarnational dimension of Scripture is crucial for us to understand if we are to hear adequately the important confessions about God and humanity that Scripture expresses....

Much more at source and links provided at source:

http://www.crivoice.org/circle.html


52 posted on 04/01/2017 4:29:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Sontagged

Conspiracy nutjobs like you are why I quit coming to this site. Why do they allow people like you to make the rest of us look like idiots? Where are the stars in images of the bright daylit earth? They’re too dim to be seen in short exposures set to properly expose the bright daylit side of earth! If you want to see stars there are plenty of images and time lapse videos from ISS showing stars while it is on the night side of earth. Even moonlight alone is enough to light up the earth in these long exposure photographs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjTEoTRxb8
And yes, I know what I’m talking about, I’ve been doing astrophotography for 17 years, I know what it takes to get pictures of the stars like that. Here’s some of my latest work:
http://h.dropcanvas.com/pzgkd/m51drizzlesmoothfinal.jpg
That’s a combined stack of 3 hours and 20 minutes of 5 minute exposures with my telescope.

As for your foolish video, it’s not a blue screen, it was a background grid for a school science experiment to allow students on earth to perform measurements from the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCO_4UFINBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJgL3Rxsf3c

Nutjob conspiracy theorists like you should be permanently banned from FR.


56 posted on 04/11/2017 7:49:42 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Sontagged

OH LOOK, I WIN AGAIN, MORE FOOTAGE OF THE ENTIRE LANDING OF THE FALCON 9!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3j2HjI82mI
YOU WERE WRONG, YOU WERE DEAD WRONG, IT’S NOT A FAKE, IT’S NOT A HOAX!!!!!!!!!! ADMIT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


82 posted on 12/08/2017 10:41:12 AM PST by messierhunter
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