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The screw heads are bugle shaped, and sit flush to the surface of the aluminum block, if that helps.

Thanks in advance.

1 posted on 03/12/2017 9:53:30 PM PDT by Windflier
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Kroil is good so is SeaFoam. We stock our trucks with either or.


147 posted on 03/13/2017 4:54:07 AM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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The three best chemicals are PB Blaster, PB Blaster, and PB Blaster. Don't listen to anything else. I've been removing rusty bolts for more than half a century, and you've ruled out the only thing better - the heat wrench (oxy-acetylene torches).

Actually, an electric heat gun will help a lot, too. Use a real heat gun, not a hair dryer. You can buy one from Harbor Freight for around ten bucks. The coefficient of thermal expansion of aluminum is nearly double that of steel, so a good warmup will expand the aluminum around the steel and help a lot.

The problem with rusty bolts is that rust is steel that is combined with oxygen. Therefore, it has more volume than the original steel. The extra volume fills in the gaps and actually tightens the bolt. That's why heating it, which expands it, helps so much.

148 posted on 03/13/2017 4:54:32 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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Heat the aluminum block with a propane torch. The aluminum will expand more than the steel screws, freeing them from their holes.


149 posted on 03/13/2017 5:07:06 AM PDT by GingisK
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Drill a pilot hole down the middle to relieve the pressure. Heat the aluminum around the head. Impact the bolt with a punch the same size. Remove with correctly sized hex driver with electric hammer drill.


152 posted on 03/13/2017 5:16:42 AM PDT by anton
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You may have some luck with freezing the screw using a can of ‘freeze’ from an auto parts store. Not sure what brand you local store will carry but they all do the same thing. The idea is to get the largest temperature differential between the aluminum block and the ss screw.
Aluminum conducts heat so readily that the suggestions for heating it would likely take way more input than reducing the temperature of the screw.
All other things being equal, the impact driver will be the ‘gee I shoulda had one of these years ago’ answer to your predicament.


153 posted on 03/13/2017 5:23:42 AM PDT by whodathunkit (PC is the AR of the left)
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Heat them and tighten them first.


154 posted on 03/13/2017 5:38:47 AM PDT by fedupjohn (The Alpha Male Chosen By The People to #MAGA....President Trump...)
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Handyman Forum!


155 posted on 03/13/2017 5:42:29 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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Are they liberal or conservative screws?


157 posted on 03/13/2017 5:53:56 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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Some years ago I had gotten a massive antique door, with very big hinges, one frozen. The door was very valuable and the hinges irreplaceable, so my anxiety was off the charts. WD-40 was useless, as was heat. Force was out of the question.
What finally worked was applying heat plus vibration, using a vise to put a block against the hinge and then hitting that with a power drill.
Like tapping it, only with enhanced force. In other words, “power tapping.”
There are other tools that will do the same job but all I had was the drill. Never want to do that again. :(


158 posted on 03/13/2017 5:59:11 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( rent this space)
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WD-40 is the wrong thing to use. It is a protectorant, not a loosener. You’ll wait forever and nothing will happen. Remove the WD and get some Liquid Wrench and apply it. After little while, you should get action.


161 posted on 03/13/2017 6:18:20 AM PDT by Tucker39 (In giving us The Christ, God gave us the ONE thing we desperately NEEDED; a Savior.)
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Jeweler’s torch (Ace Hardware) - heat them, let them cool and they will unscrew if you haven’t messed up the heads too much.


162 posted on 03/13/2017 6:30:48 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Almost 200 posts about an alen screw.

A bunch of Gearheads, FR is a haven for Gearheads.

It’s all starting to make sense now.


163 posted on 03/13/2017 6:38:26 AM PDT by infool7 (The ugly Truth is just a big lie.)
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wire EDM. just kidding.


167 posted on 03/13/2017 7:00:39 AM PDT by Jim Pelosi
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Geese..... I went through the first page and couldn't take any more.

1. Quit worrying about what is the best penetrating product or weird homemade formulas and just go get the PB Blaster. It's real hard to find - Not. Auto parts place, Home Depot, Lowe's, Walmart, hardware store, etc. PB should be in your standard maintenance supplies.

2. Soak the screw over night. As another poster advised, wrap a soaked rag over the screw if needed to keep the screw wet with PB.

3. Call in a machinist. You don't appear to have the tools or experience right now to deal with this. Look over their shoulder and learn for next time.

4. Time is $$$. How much time have you spent on this? How many $$$ are lost by machine downtime? If qualified staff and tools are not on-site then you need to have both a machinist and an industrial electrician on call 24/7 to keep the machines running. Stuff breaks. Stuff repaired or maintained by persons outside their skill levels is a recipe for more breaks and safety hazards.

171 posted on 03/13/2017 7:26:39 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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Patience. Take your time. Lots of good advice so far. Haven’t used Kroil, sounds amazing . The shipyard at Newport News used to use PB Blaster which is decent.

Another method would be to drill out the “head” of the Allen bolt. Collapse the head of the bolt, remove block, use pliers to remove shank of bolt. This requires a good drill bit and a steady hand.

I have used carbide deburring bits in die grinders to accomplish the same.

Good luck! Let us know what works.


174 posted on 03/13/2017 7:55:17 AM PDT by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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If that doesn't work, try using a small propane torch to heat the shaft. The difference in thermal expansion of aluminum and iron will break the bonds between them, allowing you to remove the setscrew..............

176 posted on 03/13/2017 8:00:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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CRC makes Knock’er Loose which you can purchase at Grainger.com. It has a freezing agent which allows the solvent to penetrate the fastener, fitting or shaft. I have used it successfully many times (sometimes you will have to apply it twice if the item is encrusted with corrosion or mineral build-up).


178 posted on 03/13/2017 9:44:36 AM PDT by urchin
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Ez-out them, about a minute per hole. Never-seize on new screws.


179 posted on 03/13/2017 9:57:28 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you an2d to save you, He will.)
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Just in case someone has put a steel screw into aluminum with Loctite(idiotic,but it’s been done)then you’ll need heat to break the Loctite loose.


180 posted on 03/13/2017 11:05:48 AM PDT by oldtech
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I have no suggestions to add, but I just wanted to say you’ve proved Free Republic is the go-to place for those needing a couple screws loose!


208 posted on 03/13/2017 6:36:05 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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