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Florida householder fatally shoots woman searching for dog
BBC ^ | 11 January 2017

Posted on 01/11/2017 2:20:53 PM PST by BenLurkin

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1 posted on 01/11/2017 2:20:53 PM PST by BenLurkin
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There will be more to this story. His yard is fenced with a gate. I wonder what time of night it was?

I once confronted a couple of teenagers looking inside cars for things to steal. I told them to get lost. They said they were looking for their dog. I told them their dog wasn’t inside any of the cars:

FOX 13 video from the scene showed the home has a gate out front with several signs with messages like “private property” and “no trespassing,” along with a uniformed mannequin on an elevated platform holding what appears to be a rifle.


2 posted on 01/11/2017 2:28:02 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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a gate out front with several signs with messages like “private property” and “no trespassing,” along with a uniformed mannequin on an elevated platform holding what appears to be a rifle

Pretty much let's you know that's not a door to knock on.

3 posted on 01/11/2017 2:36:30 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: BenLurkin

If the only threat was that someone knocked on his door, people like him will help us lose our rights.
No requirement that you answer and open the door, you can yell through the door to go away.
If they get pushy then, that’s a different matter.


4 posted on 01/11/2017 2:42:32 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Still no excuse for coming out shooting. Need more details but won’t be surprised if homeowner charged with at least voluntary manslaughter.


5 posted on 01/11/2017 2:43:05 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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I agree completely.


6 posted on 01/11/2017 2:45:28 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Yep. This link has a slide show of pictures of his property. Nobody on the up and up would cross into that yard.

http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/228464134-story


7 posted on 01/11/2017 2:53:16 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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If he actually had a fully fenced yard with a closed gate then it is the same as walking into the house. LEO at my home would not pass my gate. Not to say coming out shooting was the right thing to do but it also sounds like a possible home invasion. Lot’s of bad people out there.


8 posted on 01/11/2017 2:53:26 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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Need more details but won’t be surprised if homeowner charged with at least voluntary manslaughter.

If intent is proved, he could be looking at 2nd-degree murder. IANAL, just my opinion as someone who reads a lot of self-defense legal issues, and someone who has been trained on these issues by the best (Ayoob, Branca).

9 posted on 01/11/2017 2:57:03 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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My dad lives just north of there. He came home one day and saw a fellow poking around in the garage.

“What are you doing?” my dad asked.

“Uh... I’m looking for a job...” the guy says.

“Well, you won’t find one in there,” my dad replied.


10 posted on 01/11/2017 2:58:07 PM PST by Fido969 (IN!)
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To: BenLurkin

He shot her as she sat in the car?
Doesn’t sound good for him.


11 posted on 01/11/2017 3:00:27 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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I agree there must be more to this story. The shooters house is a giant STAY AWAY warning. You would need to be an idiot or a SWAT team to get near it.


12 posted on 01/11/2017 3:02:29 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Pretty much let's you know that's not a door to knock on.

She was apparently there to retrieve her late husband's dog, which had been in the care of the shooter. Her husband died last week.

http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/228464134-story

13 posted on 01/11/2017 3:02:36 PM PST by cynwoody
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That was not clear from the excerpt or title, thank you for the clarification. It sounded like they were searching the neighborhood.


14 posted on 01/11/2017 3:05:06 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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I agree there must be more to this story. The shooters house is a giant STAY AWAY warning.

There is.

It was not a "cold call" looking for a lost dog. The Rawsons were there to pick up a dog which belonged to the victim's late husband. Matthews, apparently a friend of the husband, had been caring for the dog.

Reportedly, Matthews has a record going back at least thirty years.

15 posted on 01/11/2017 3:15:06 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“a gate out front with several signs with messages like “private property” and “no trespassing,” along with a uniformed mannequin on an elevated platform holding what appears to be a rifle

Pretty much let’s you know that’s not a door to knock on.”

If the victim was in her car, how did she knock on his door?


16 posted on 01/11/2017 3:15:08 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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If he’s 83 and has records for the past 30 years, there are likely more.

I dont know many people who turn to a life of crime at 53 :)


17 posted on 01/11/2017 3:26:42 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: cynwoody

This is a bizarre story.


18 posted on 01/11/2017 3:31:50 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t know, but if you got by my front gates and my “no trespassing” signs and my outside dogs and was able to knock or enter my house. hmmmm. I live in Texas so I don’t know?????


19 posted on 01/11/2017 3:34:43 PM PST by Undecided 2012
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Are there any pics of the woman? Maybe he had reason to be afraid.


20 posted on 01/11/2017 3:34:48 PM PST by delete306
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