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A new theory challenges everything astronomers thought they knew about how the Moon was created
www.businessinsider.sg ^ | Jan. 10, 2017, 12:32 AM | Lindsay Dodgson

Posted on 01/09/2017 9:59:14 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Grampa Dave
If you don't mind, I would like to use this...

Absolutely, Dave. Be my guest.

41 posted on 01/09/2017 12:16:15 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

From Universe Today: “The volume of the Moon is 21.9 billion cubic km. Again, that sounds like a huge number, but the volume of the Earth is more like 1 trillion cubic kilometers. So the volume of the Moon is only 2% compared to the volume of the Earth. Finally, let’s take a look at mass. The mass of the Moon is 7.347 x 1022 kg. But the Earth is much more massive. The mass of the Earth is 5.97x 1024 kg. This means that the mass of the Moon is only 1.2% of the mass of the Earth.”

Actually, the density of the earth and the moon are within a factor of 2. Seems fairly close.


42 posted on 01/09/2017 12:19:05 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Red Badger
I'm sticking to the collision theory. One of its greatest supporting issues is planet density. Earth's density of 5.5 grams per CuCM-3 is much higher than it should be for the distance from the sun. Compared to Venus' 5.2 and Mars' 3.9 Earth's density should be in the mid-4s. This hints of exceptional impact event of a large body for the extra density with the lower-mass ejecta of the impact coalescing into a moon. This is further supported by the similarly improbable low-mass density of the moon, 3.34 grams per CuCM-3. The moon also shows it should not have formed where it is. One too-high mass and one too-low mass bodies orbiting together strongly implies an impact and ejecta moon scenario.
43 posted on 01/09/2017 12:21:34 PM PST by Justa
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To: ModelBreaker
"...the mass of the Moon is only 1.2% of the mass of the Earth."

Yet our moon is a quarter of the size of Earth.

Sum Ting Wong.

44 posted on 01/09/2017 12:25:34 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

Volume of the moon is 2% of volume of Earth. Using the 1/4th figure conflates “size” and volume.


45 posted on 01/09/2017 12:28:58 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: DungeonMaster

Now you know how Copernicus and Galileo felt!................


46 posted on 01/09/2017 12:29:20 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?............)
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To: GraceG

From my photo hi-res look, that rectangle is in 3-D, i.e., there is something placed ON the picture. Looks similar to a SD card plastic container.


47 posted on 01/09/2017 12:29:50 PM PST by apostoli ("When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." - Sowel)
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To: ModelBreaker
Volume of the moon is 2% of volume of Earth. Using the 1/4th figure conflates “size” and volume.

That's kinda the point.

How can the moon be only 2% the mass (not volume) of Earth, yet be a quarter the size, if it's solid?

If it's solid, shouldn't it be a quarter the mass of Earth? Logic says it should, unless it's made of something vastly lighter than our planet, or it's hollow.

Speaking of that, why did the NASA seismometer record a full hour of ground reverberation after the Apollo 11 L.E.M. crashed into it? Why did it record three hours of reverberations when they crash landed a second L.E.M. on a susequent mission?

48 posted on 01/09/2017 12:43:51 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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“How can the moon be only 2% the mass (not volume) of Earth, yet be a quarter the size, if it’s solid?”

Basic physics. As a measurement of size goes up(say the diameter of the moon) the volume goes up by the cube of the diameter. Volume=4/3 * Pi * (Diameter/2)cubed So if you double the diameter of a sphere with a diameter of 2 inches to a diameter of four inches, you get the following change in volume.

Size (diameter) Volume (cubic inches)
2 in. 4.2 cubic inches
4 in. 33.51 cubic inches

So as the diameter of the sphere increases by a factor of 2, the volume goes up by a factor of 8.


49 posted on 01/09/2017 12:54:46 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Thanks for the mathematics lesson.

We still can’t account for the “ringing” of the moon, nor its enigmatic origins.

When we solve those mysteries, it’s going to flip everyone’s noodles.


50 posted on 01/09/2017 1:26:38 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Red Badger

Bow dare they try to undo “settled science!”


51 posted on 01/09/2017 1:28:41 PM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #MyPresident #MAGA)
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To: Windflier

There are several indian legends that we once had two moons.

There’s also the weird account of a monk in England in the early medieval period, describing apparently an asteroid crashing into the moon, and the whole thing shimmied, wobbled and even sort of shimmered like a reflection on the water, implication being that it isn’t at all solid.


52 posted on 01/09/2017 1:29:42 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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There’s also the weird account of a monk in England in the early medieval period, describing apparently an asteroid crashing into the moon, and the whole thing shimmied, wobbled and even sort of shimmered like a reflection on the water, implication being that it isn’t at all solid.

Amazing.

53 posted on 01/09/2017 1:53:06 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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“We still can’t account for the “ringing” of the moon, nor its enigmatic origins.”

Yes. That’s interesting.


54 posted on 01/09/2017 2:10:10 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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55 posted on 01/09/2017 3:12:02 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

There it is!


56 posted on 01/09/2017 3:45:17 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

Volume of Luna : Earth = about 1 : 51, which if their compositions were the same would place the moon’s mass as just short of 2% of Earth’s. The moon’s composition seems to be mostly materials like the Earth’s mantle and crust, without so much the iron and nickel core. So a mass of about 1.2% seems reasonable.


57 posted on 01/09/2017 7:28:56 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: GraceG

And this too:

“The Moon’s size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size. And when its orbit around Earth takes the Moon directly between Earth and the Sun, the Moon blocks our view of the Sun in what we call a solar eclipse. This is just the same as when you use your thumb to block your view of something that is both much larger and much farther away.”

http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-earth/moon-general.html

“Coincidence that sun and moon seem same size?”

“Bottom line: The sun’s diameter is about 400 times larger than that of the moon – and the sun is also about 400 times farther from Earth. So the sun and moon appear nearly the same size as seen from Earth. What are the odds?”

http://earthsky.org/space/coincidence-that-sun-and-moon-seem-same-size


58 posted on 01/10/2017 12:06:24 AM PST by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

Psalm 19:1-4 The heavens declare the glory of God, the dome of the sky speaks the work of his hands. Every day it utters speech, every night it reveals knowledge. Without speech, without a word, without their voices being heard, their line goes out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world.

I think that God, the Author of all science, put the sun and moon and earth (four variables - sun size, moon size, earth to moon distance and moon to sun distance) all in perfect order just as a faint glimpse of the order of the heavens. Something that has made man ponder things greater than himself - all the way from ancient man to us.


59 posted on 01/10/2017 12:24:33 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Faith Presses On; GraceG; Windflier; metmom

http://www.eclipse2017.org/

By the way - the U.S. will be getting a total eclipse of the sun on Aug. 21, 2017. My older teen daughters are excited for a road trip to see it. (My wife - not so much, so will enjoy the home alone for awhile!)

BTW - this eclipse will only be visible from land in the U.S. The last time that happened was 1776 or something!


60 posted on 01/11/2017 1:07:09 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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