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To: fireman15
Thanks for the reasoned reply. Let me give you an example of the advice I have gotten. I refuse to take Statin drugs because for me, every time I take them I have had bad side effects. Also there is not one scientific study, not one, that has shown there is a linkage between dietary Cholesterol and blood serum cholesterol. Zip, zero. There are many studies that show that we make our own cholesterol, both HDL and LDL Lipids, out of excess carbohydrates during the Krebs cycle. Non-Human cholesterol essentially passes through the body. Similarly we make our own fats during the Krebs cycle.

The Krebs cycle is driven by carbohydrates using insulin to convert them to glycogen.

This board certified cardiologist was so wedded to the use of Statins and insistent on the use of them, that when I told him that I had consistent weight gain when ever I take them. I also told them that Statins completely counter a class of drugs I must take to counter severe phantom pain I have in my feet that can be debilitating. This class of drugs requires being titrated down over a space of 18 months to stop using it otherwise I am at risk of suffering severe psychiatric drug withdrawal episodes due to the body not supplying the necessary chemicals right away. Statins turned OFF the action of this drug in the course of just FOUR HOURS! I had to do deep research into how both classes of drugs worked to discover why I was having problems the last time a doctor put me on statins.

In any case, this Cardiologist told me I would be better off RE-GAINING the 154 pounds I had lost and risking those withdrawal symptoms and suffering the severe pain in my feet just to take a Statin that has no proof of efficacy, or even any proven studies showing that having high cholesterol is a risk factor.

In fact, the latest studies show that high cholesterol may, in fact, may be a factor for longevity. It turns out that the guy who had the "hunch" that dietary cholesterol was the "cause" of heart disease had tweaked his data to get the results he wanted. . . and when it was untweaked, there was no indicator one way or the other.

My family has a high cholesterol level and my mom's cholesterol of over 350 and lived without heart problems to 95 ⅕. Her mom lived to 95. Her Dad to 95.

But this "expert" doctor would rather have me weigh 374 pounds just so I can take his holy Statin drug. That make no sense.To lower my risk of another heart attack by 20% he will increase my risk by 200%! AND condemn me to living in pain for the rest of my life.

This A-hole, not only insisted I needed to do that, he went so far as to CANCEL a prescription for a more modern, non-Statin drug cholesterol lowering drug I had agreed to try that another cardiologist had recommended that does not, he claimed, have the side effects! because it works in another modality This drug was listed on my discharge prescriptions but it was not delivered. When I called to find out why it wasn't, I was told it had been canceled by the arrogant Statin A-hole.

238 posted on 01/13/2017 11:55:13 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Thank you very much for the reply. I was worried that I had bugged you enough. Despite my previous posts, I am not a huge fan of doctors myself. But I probably owe my life to doctors and modern medicine.

Ten years ago I had abdominal pain severe enough that I had to miss a day of work. Then it got quite a bit better. But a few days later I was feeling poorly again and my wife said that my complexion had an unusual tint. She is a nurse and insisted that I go to get looked at. Her exact words were, “If you do not go to the doctor I will shoot you myself.” She is a pretty good shot.

So I waited from the time the urgent care opened up until sometime after noon while every crying kid was triaged in front of me. They finally took some blood and then I waited for another couple hours. Then they took an X-ray of my abdomen. An hour later they called me back in from the waiting room and an excited doctor came in and told me I had a ruptured appendix and they had called an ambulance to take me to a hospital that I don’t like. I told them to cancel the ambulance and that I was going to drive home and have my wife take me to a different hospital that I trust more.

They said that they could not let me do that because I was not fit to drive, and that they had “admitted me” and that they would call the police if I tried to leave. So I called my wife and she came to the urgent care so they would let me leave without a fight, and I drove home and she took me to the other hospital.

When I got to the other hospital they had been warned of my impending arrival and seemed excited to see me. We didn’t have to wait. They took an MRI immediately. My wife was standing in the hall and heard the radiologist exclaim, “Whoa!”, followed by a couple expletives. Then he came out, saw her and apologized for what he had said.

I was feeling subpar, but not like my life was in danger. the head surgeon at the hospital came in to talk to me. I asked the doctor if they could just give me some antibiotics and fix it after the infection cleared up. He said, “No! If we do that you will die!” I didn’t actually believe him; I assumed he was exaggerating to get me to do what they wanted. But what choice did I have?

So I had a lengthy surgery and ended up with a scar from hip bone to hip bone. They had to take all my intestines out so they could wash the nasty stuff off that had been leaking into my abdominal cavity for a week.

So I had a quick and basically pain free recovery. A year later I had an overtime day and I was in charge of a “probationary” (new) firefighter. When I was talking to him, he told me about his dad who had been the same age as me and also a serious bicyclist. He had been in perfect health. But he had died just a few months earlier from peritonitis because he had ignored abdominal pain the same as I did. He had abdominal pain that he had ignored just like I did. He had the same surgery that I did and came out of it and it seemed like he was going to be OK, only he ended up with an infection that killed him.

So it turned out the doctors probably were not lying to me after all. So these days I do not try to second guess my doctors... as much. My concern with your situation is strictly that I have known quite a few men on high protein low carb diets who have had heart issues. After their episodes those who continued with their high protein low carb diets had poor outcomes. I do not know if there is any conclusive evidence confirming this. But my personal observations of this concern me, and I would be grateful if you would discuss this with whoever is aiding your recovery.


239 posted on 01/13/2017 4:50:48 PM PST by fireman15 (How many illegal aliens voted for Hillary in CA and NY alone?)
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