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To: SamAdams76
Also, read as much as you can on nutrition and diet in general. Many doctors still have old-fashioned ideas on nutrition so ultimately you need to listen to your body.

Those were the doctors I ran into in the past weekend. . . Had I eaten what the hospital nutritionist sent to me as a cardiac diet (what they also referred to as a diabetic diet) I would have consumed almost 500 grams of carbohydrates in a single day. Breakfast was French Toast with genuine syrup, Orange Juice, a large banana, and three quasi-sausages made of some carb laden pseudo meat! No protein. Lunch? It was a nice crescent sandwich with low fat mayo (which to make it palatable, they add carbs to), rice (more carbs, a fruit bowl (more carbs), milk (yes, more carbs), noodle soup with huge noodles (even more carbs), and finally a fruit drink (yet more carbs!). Recall this was a diabetic plate masquerading as also a cardiac diet! My low carb diet is fewer than 60 grams of carbs!

223 posted on 01/10/2017 12:48:47 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

Yikes. Hospital food is pretty awful. Have somebody smuggle in some nuts and other real food!


224 posted on 01/10/2017 2:30:51 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Swordmaker

oh my dear geeeeeeeeeky friend. I am just catching up with your ordeal. I in the past have had limited wifi time(a bit improved for a few weeks starting today)

I am so sorry this is all occurring. Glad you are home and surely know for the most part you will be better equipped to heal at home than at hos[ital

Ive had 6 of those procedures.. first scary and after routine but still concern the dear doc doesn’t tear a vessel requiring open heart team

MY VERY BEST hospital experience EVER was in Oklahoma city. Oklahoma Heart Hospital. Physician owned. I went in with chest pains, hardly able to walk etc.. found out I had been misdiagnosed at Cleveland Clinic with Congestive Heart Failure. In fact my heart and arteries were in excellent shape but I was near death due to anemia (so much for a world class heart hospital .. Cleveland Clinic)..

That facility in Oklahoma City is amazing. Food, staff/patient ratio, rooms..

Anyone who suspects they are having heart issues.. visit OKC... go to ER with Chest pains.. You will hate to leave.

You have a full menu to chose from (and the choices are excellent). One meal a day you can have a guest who eats for free with same menu. Huge private rooms, TV and AV stuff to die for. Great wifi. Nurses that smile and give back rubs (wowsie)

It is a beautiful and relatively new facility. As it is physician owned they work hard to make sure the patients will walk out like me - singing its praises not griping

Well continue to keep us posted will you..?

And do investigate natural... there are foods, herbs, oils that clear arteries, minimize cholesterol issues. I was caregiver to my mom. When I came she was given 3 months to live. I took her off all her meds (about 15) and did all natural for her “diagnosed conditions”. Within 4 days ALL of the issues and problems and pain were gone

She lived 20 more years to 74. Not saying all should do this but I do not prescribe to the huge amount of drugs prescribed that do nothing to correct conditions but just “handle” symptoms

Okay, Ill get off my soapbox.. Need to get out but first remove ice and snow from my van.

Hugs from NE Ohio


226 posted on 01/10/2017 7:33:22 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is. Tell the the storm how BIG your God is!!!)
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Also, read as much as you can on nutrition and diet in general. Many doctors still have old-fashioned ideas on nutrition so ultimately you need to listen to your body. From SamAdams76

Had I eaten what the hospital nutritionist sent to me as a cardiac diet (what they also referred to as a diabetic diet) I would have consumed almost 500 grams of carbohydrates in a single day. From Swordmaker

First, Swordmaker, I thank God that you survived your ordeal and that you are doing alright. You have my prayers for your continued well being. Now if you even are actually able to remember who I am... I will give you a little of what you might have come to expect from me... advice that will contradict you and other posters here.

I give you this advice based on what I know from 25 years working on a fire department. I responded to countless people who were having cardiac events. Many of them became repeat customers. But I also have many, many years volunteering at Nursing Homes and Retirement Centers, and watching friends and family members recover from similar cardiac events.

The very first thing that you should do is to forget all about counting how many grams of “carbs” you are eating. And don't try to listen to your body. And don't try to read everything you can on nutrition and diet. Most of the self help nutrition books you find these days are pure unadulterated fad diet nonsense. And that goes especially for this high protein, low carb diet crap. If that is how you have been picking what you eat, then you do not have any idea how typical your situation is. You just survived something that could easily have killed you. This is not a the time to play games with your health trying to use your superior intellect by putting your faith in some fad diet guru.

Sorry guys, but patients are often their own worst enemies especially when it comes to recovering from a cardiac event. Follow the advice of your doctors and the nutritionist from the hospital or whoever your doctors recommend. They are professionals and their “old-fashioned ideas” are typically based on years of experience. If they are older they have observed who has done the best after going through what you just have. If they are younger, they probably are up on the latest research.

I have known many people in their 90s and quite a few who made it past 100 and still had their wits about them. Not one was ever counting their carbs or eating a high protein fad diet. Many were under the guidance of nutritionists. I can't tell you how many men I have met who were on high protein low carb diets who had cardiac events... most of those who continued on the same routine are now dead. So I feel very passionately about this.

The people who I have known who have reached very old age ate a balanced diet, have had an active lifestyle, and had interests that kept them mentally engaged. They weren't counting carbs and eating high protein diets. You were lucky enough to survive your cardiac event. It was a wake up call. Follow the advice of the professionals whose actions saved you. And if they advise you to change your diet... LISTEN even if it means eating French Toast with genuine syrup, Orange Juice, a large banana, and three quasi-sausages. That sounds delicious to me and probably has more than enough protein for a balanced diet.

So get well and keep letting us know about all things Apple. Remember what Benjamin Franklin said.

228 posted on 01/10/2017 11:09:34 PM PST by fireman15 (How many illegal aliens voted for Hillary in CA and NY alone?)
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