Posted on 11/29/2016 4:33:59 PM PST by BobL
Maybe it's time we wake up a bit. 1) Trump won by narrow margins in 3 states. 2) Podesta came out and said it's not over 3) Hillary and Obama soon after came out and said it is over 4) We were all happy and figured the rest of the effort to get Trump into office was just a formality 5) We stop worrying about watching the ballots and the machines 6) The Dems go dark, nothing from Hillary, Podesta, Obama questioning the election 7) Stein files for recount, we all (me included) say it's just a joke, a fund-raising scheme...and she raises lots of money. 8) Stein gives us soothing words - that she knows that Hillary lost, instead she just wants a complete tabulation, so as to legitimatize the results. 9) Hillary's people join the recount effort 10) No one on our side bothers asking why the Dems would want to 'legitimatize' Trump's victory 11) The big money requests from the state of Wisconsin comes in, we laugh...we told you so, just a fund-raising scheme 12) Stein shuts us up by paying up 13) So our main theory is blown out of the water - Stein/Hillary are serious about the recount. 14) Two more theories left: A: They want to legitimize Trump's victory B: They think they can overturn the results of the election
Does anyone think that "A" is the answer?
If not, is anyone concerned that "B" may just happen? Are Trump's lawyers watching (if so, they're awfully quiet...totally opposite of Bush's lawyers in 2000)? Are RNC lawyers watching? Do we know the chain of custody of all of the ballots/machines?
Finally, if the answers to the above are no, then are we prepared for Hillary to take office?
Oh dear. This thread is nearing meltdown. I’m going to find my crayons.
I hope and pray that I am dead wrong.
“Oh dear. This thread is nearing meltdown. I’m going to find my crayons.”
Actually the goal here is to WAKE OUR PEOPLE UP, before the bad news starts coming in (missed deadlines, precincts found to be inaccurate, newly found votes, and God knows what else).
Is it really smart to wait until AFTER that starts to respond?
Agree. Bush’s lawyers were far more active. I know Florida was obviously closer than these three, but there are actionable challenges to the WI recount that can be fought for in court as well as PA.
Their sitting on their duffs doing nothing could result on one or more of these states electoral votes not being counted. I know the Rats won’t be able to overcome Trumps lead in any of these three states, but it is entirely possible they can prevent their electors from voting if the state courts allow them.
I’ve read about two ways to read the 12th amendment definition of “appointed” electors. Some say all states electors are appointed and if these states can’t vote their electors it will go to the House since neither has 270 EV’s. The other is that electors from the three states were never appointed, in which the electoral majority needed would drop accordingly (247 from 270 if these 3 states electors cannot vote. If this is the case, then Trump would still win the EC with 260 EV’s.
Either way, the GOP/Trump would be better served filing lawsuits to make sure these recounts and late challenges are killed in good order so these states are free to certify for Trump and get their electors votes cast. Also shows the other side that you will not take this theft laying down.
I read on another thread that’s not how it works. They can only recount what votes are on record, not add new ones to the mix.
Yes we are dealing with Clintons and Democrat scum. But they are not all knowing and all-powerful. They are not our superiors! We kicked their @sses on Election Day, from the POTUS on down to state legislatures all over the country. Has everyone forgotten that? If they were so clever and brilliant in their scheming, then they should have kicked our @sses on Election Day. They didn’t.
Everyone needs to calm down and stop with the Oliver Stone conspiracy theories. The best thing we can do right now is pray without ceasing.
I think it was certified today.
I heard that It was certified today.
I can’t help but add on some quotes out of the news today:
@Scaramucci: “Jill Stein has no shot, Secretary Clinton has no shot, the recount is really a publicity stunt”
@newtgingrich: “I think the recount-mania is one more example of the collapse of the Democratic Party as a realistic institution”
https://twitter.com/seanhannity?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
So, that’s what Newt said fwiw.
It was 440 votes out of a total of 800 +/- in the entire township. It was a tabulation error. The township originally reported 40 votes +/- total for Trump.
As for lawyers, my state district is recounting a race for Assembly that had only 56 votes difference. A canvasser told me there are 40 lawyers in the room. The canvassers are in two separate rooms, one for 2 large precincts and one for all the rest. She said the Dem lawyers are nasty and sarcastic. Everyone hates them already, after just 2 days.
Let’s throw another possibility in the mix. Could Jillypoo have been hoodwinked onto doing this recount by some other source? Jillypoo may be a physician but I know plenty that are screwballs with respect to common sense. Now let’s suppose someone not directly connected to the Trumpster approached Jillypoo and convinced her to pull this attempted coup because they suspect there was voting irregularities and the Trumpster was the benefactor. Jillypoo swallows the bait hook line and sinker. She gets a crowd funding effort going and all the Libturds pitch in. She manages to get enough to challenge WI and is hoping to challenge MI and PA. Pickles graciously conceded but still thinks it is her right to the office so she quietly instructs her remaining staff to pitch in so it does not look like she is involved.
Now WI is a republican controlled state although it does not have a veto proof majority. Cities like Milwaukee are heavily DemocRAT and as usual the rural areas are Republican. Voter fraud is much easier in urban areas. The Trumpster has said all along there is ramped voter fraud. The Libturds are screaming that Pickles won the popular vote. Could this have been a trick to suck in the Libturds so that voter fraud could be exposed? Remember Priebus is from WI and now the Trumpsters right hand man. Walker and Priebus are good friends. On another note the Trumpster has done the Rope-a-Dope so many times during this election cycle and he always sucks them in.
Now that I have presented option 3 think about it. The Trumpster has to appear to not want to prosecute Pickles until he is firmly in office or Bammy will pardon her. The Trumpster has made some strange tweets in the past that always seem to come to fruitarian. The Trumster also stated early on that he was not in this for the fun, he intended to win. Could the Trumpster be playing the last hand in this election where he is holding the Royal Flush and Pickles hitched her wagon to a pair of Deuces?
Looks like I may have to go on another FR hiatus until after Jan 20.
Not to worry. It’s just not possible mathematically. And all the camps, including Clinton’s, agree that recounts won’t change the outcome. It’s all just Stein doing fundraising to do some money-laundering of donated $$$ into the Freak Party or whatever’s coffers.
From Detroit News: “Attorneys representing Trump said Monday they favor a machine recount, which they said would be more efficient than a hand recount, which Stein is expected to request.’
Lansing election attorneys John Pirich and Gary Gordon, who appeared at the board on Monday on behalf of Trump, did not immediately respond to e-mails asking if they agree Trump can only challenge the form of the recount, and not whether a recount happens, and whether they are comfortable with the recount starting before the seven-day deadline for objections has lapsed.
Scott Hagerstrom, director of the Trump campaign in Michigan, said earlier Monday that “all options will be open and pursued,” but “it’s hard to speculate until a recount is requested.”
“Judge Rejects Stein’s Request To Force Wisconsin Recount By Hand (Soros/Loserwoman 2016 denied!)”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3499675/posts
Actually some GOOD NEWS for us here (finally)...but let’s just see what the higher courts do...
Yes. Keep praying, people!
I hope that I am dead wrong, for sure
They are accomplished cheaters, Liars, theives and criminals, and they will stop at nothing
Again, I hope I am wrong
So now, for Clintoon is to manufacturer the needed votes. They had time to strategize and know what xactly wgat the counts are. They WILL steal this so the Reps better get on the track cause the Dems are 2-3 laps around
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