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No, the Universe is not expanding at an accelerated rate, say physicists
Science alert ^ | 10/24/16 | BEC CREW

Posted on 10/24/2016 1:58:12 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Does that mean the mass of science is negative?


41 posted on 10/24/2016 2:57:17 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: dsrtsage
dsrtsage said: "If the universe was imploding, ..."

One of the most useful illustrations to explain these theories, using two dimensions instead of three, is that of a balloon with a grid of dots painted on the surface.

If the balloon isn't being further inflated or deflated and you position yourself at one of the dots, what do you see? The distance to any other dot would be constant.

If you then began inflating the balloon, the distance to nearby dots would be increasing. The distance to dots further away would be increasing even faster. That would describe an "expanding universe".

If you began deflating the balloon, the distance to nearby dots would be decreasing and similarly the distance to dots further away would be decreasing even faster.

Now further imagine that we can inflate or deflate the balloon such that the rate of inflation or deflation increases with time or decreases with time. This would correspond to "accelerating expansion" or "decelerating expansion" or "accelerating contraction" or "decelerating contraction".

The finite speed of light allows us to view distant parts of the universe at earlier times. This theoretically permits us to determine if the rate of expansion now (locally) is more or less than the rate of expansion at some time in the past (the more distant objects in the universe).

Of course, if the image of the universe we see is simply one giant hologram, then all bets are off.

42 posted on 10/24/2016 2:57:39 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: freedumb2003

And was established science.


43 posted on 10/24/2016 3:01:23 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: William Tell

Hi.

There’s been a few people theorize that we are living on G-d’s holo deck.

Probably the fifth deck near the replicators.

5.56mm


44 posted on 10/24/2016 3:04:22 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: central_va
how does knowing this help me?

It could be helpful if you are invested in any stocks that are working on anti-gravity devices that rely on dark energy to work - as in sell now!

45 posted on 10/24/2016 3:04:49 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Proudly deplorable since 2016.)
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To: LibWhacker

Next, they will discover that the, “cosmic microwave background” really was due to pigeon poop.

My theory is that it exists because people open their microwave ovens before pausing the cooking so, each time they do, they allow a little bit of energy to escape into the void.


46 posted on 10/24/2016 3:06:56 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: LibWhacker

First it wasn’t. Then it was. Now it isn’t. Can’t someone make up their minds?


47 posted on 10/24/2016 3:11:41 PM PDT by Parmy (II don't know how to past the images.)
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To: outofsalt

Next, they will discover that the, “cosmic microwave background” really was due to pigeon poop.


It was scientists at Bell Labs who were constructing a giant horn-antenna but could not get rid of a background hiss which they did, at first, attribute to pigeon poop. It was the cosmic microwave background.


48 posted on 10/24/2016 3:14:53 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: William Tell

We have to begin by knowing that the null hypothesis is the “skeptic’s hypothesis.” We give the skeptic the benefit of the doubt; i.e., assume that he is right (this allows us to calculate probabilities), then go out and collect some data.

Physicists make it very difficult on themselves. They will not reject the null hypothesis (here the null hypothesis says the universe is not accelerating in its expansion rate) unless the probability “that they saw what they saw” exceeds some arbitrary cutoff point (here 5 sigma). The probability in normally distributed data of seeing something as unlikely as 5 sigma is 1 in 3.5 million.


49 posted on 10/24/2016 3:24:57 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Big Bangs. Dark matter. White dwarfs ? And they call this science ?


50 posted on 10/24/2016 3:28:07 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

I agree that dark matter may be just a fudge factor to explain discrepancies involving galactic rotation. Dark energy is a theory to explain accelerated expansion. If you don’t think this is science, you are encouraged to purchase a telescope and do a better job.


51 posted on 10/24/2016 3:47:29 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I thought it was fluoristan. (Makes starlight whiter!)


52 posted on 10/24/2016 5:14:38 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: LibWhacker

The rising CO2 levels from ACC have reduced the expanding properties of gases throughout the multiverse, resulting in a catastrophic reversal of Nobel prizes.


53 posted on 10/24/2016 5:18:38 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: justa-hairyape

Big Bangs: Zooey Deschanel.

Dark Matter: Batman Begins.

White Dwarfs: Tyrion Lannister and friends.


54 posted on 10/24/2016 5:27:22 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: freedumb2003

The phlogiston requires the ether occupying empty space to ignite a spontaneously combustible person ...

... theoretically of course.


55 posted on 10/24/2016 6:09:38 PM PDT by TheNext (Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
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To: YogicCowboy

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>> “Nobel prizes” <<

Those come in Crackerjack boxes I believe...
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56 posted on 10/24/2016 6:16:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: central_va
how does knowing this help me?

Oh you are a dark hearted, dark energy denier.

And you are entirely correct. Better to keep your own tax money from study fund seekers and go fishing. :-)
57 posted on 10/24/2016 6:19:21 PM PDT by TheNext (Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"We analysed the latest catalogue of 740 Type Ia supernovae - over 10 times bigger than the original samples on which the discovery claim was based - and found that the evidence for accelerated expansion is, at most, what physicists call '3 sigma'," reports lead researcher, Subir Sarkar, from the University of Oxford.

"This is far short of the '5 sigma' standard required to claim a discovery of fundamental significance."

Whoa! This is hardly a resounding refutation! This is more like DUMB AND DUMBER ... "Yes! Then there is a chance!" ( That they might be wrong. )

"3 sigma" means that 99.7% of actually true models would pass the test. The "5 sigma" standard is intended to represent virtual certainty. In this case the implication is that the 0.3% chance that the model could be wrong disqualifies it from factitude.

58 posted on 10/24/2016 6:27:09 PM PDT by dr_lew (I)
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To: YogicCowboy

“...fluoristan...”

Ok, I admit it - I chuckled...


59 posted on 10/24/2016 6:51:58 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

BTTT!!!


60 posted on 10/24/2016 7:17:59 PM PDT by Pagey (HELL is The 2nd Term of a POTUS who is a MALICIOUS DIVIDER of humans)
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