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To: Bender2
Neither I, Roger Goodell and his NFL henchmen or the US Constitution can prevent them from saying or demonstrating their beliefs.

Bit of a disagreement here Bendy.

1) I agree that you and I have no right to interfere with one's free expression of beliefs, however,

2) Roger Goodell and his NFL henchmen have every right and freedom to deal with the behavior of their employees. Employment is a voluntary exchange. Private enterprise and voluntary employment within private enterprise has nothing to do with government, which is what the Constitution is directly aimed at. No one forces the employee to stay and the employer has the right to set reasonable rules of behavior including showing respect for the American flag.

If Kaepernick & his maybe 99 fellow protesters don't like their employer's rules (if the NFL had the rules and enforced them), then they could leave and protest elsewhere as they wish, just not under a auspice of their employ in the NFL, which is what gives them much more influence and coverage than they would otherwise.

Don't forget, the Constitution is aimed at basically one thing: the federal government who has NO right to interference with free speech,

Meanwhile, a moment of silence for our beloved Giants who went down in flames for the season last night in the ninth inning. See you next year guys. AND GET SOME RELIEF PITCHING!!

56 posted on 10/12/2016 10:28:09 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216; Bender2

I have no problem with Bender2’s NFL threads. They have been a tradition here for a long time and I’ve participated in them from time to time.

While the PC culture of the NFL has my own interest waning, I’m NOT going to be a busy body and tell someone else they can’t celebrate a long-time tradition here on FR.

I respect people’s rights to express themselves here on FR on both sides of this issue but this is a long-time tradition by Bender2. I respect his right to post these threads and still enjoy reading them.

CGato


57 posted on 10/12/2016 12:12:37 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: Jim 0216
Re: 2) Roger Goodell and his NFL henchmen have every right and freedom to deal with the behavior of their employees. Employment is a voluntary exchange. Private enterprise and voluntary employment within private enterprise has nothing to do with government, which is what the Constitution is directly aimed at. No one forces the employee to stay and the employer has the right to set reasonable rules of behavior including showing respect for the American flag.

I would agree with you if it was a hundred, eighty, sixty, forty or even 20 years ago, Jim--

But with the PC Culture and all its ramifications having been thrust down everyone throat the past two decades without much, if any, push back from Conservatives, Republicans or Libertarians, you do not have to image much to see sitting liberal judges finding for Colin or another of his ilk so that they either get a federal injunction to keep them employed and/or multi-mulit-millions of dollar settlements against the NFL.

That is what I intended when I wrote "Neither I, Roger Goodell and his NFL henchmen or the US Constitution can prevent them from saying or demonstrating their beliefs" with the inclusion of Rog and his crowd. They do not want a legal fight they do not see winning--

And if Hillary gets in, prepare to see it soon being mandatory for all of us to get down on one knee when the National Anthem is played.

59 posted on 10/12/2016 12:43:48 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Jim 0216

:: If Kaepernick & his maybe 99 fellow protesters don’t like their employer’s rules ::

Yeah...
But...but...but...

RAYCISS!


68 posted on 10/12/2016 2:27:51 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Dhimmicrats: Like white on rice; ugly on a gorilla; BrownShirts on a Jew!)
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