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Why We Celebrate Columbus Day
American Thinker ^ | October 10th, 2016 | David Deming

Posted on 10/10/2016 7:21:04 AM PDT by ChessExpert

The indigenous peoples of the Americas were not peaceful. Indigenous lives were "nasty, brutish, and short." Archaeologists such as Steven LeBlanc believe that conflict between Indian tribes was endemic and intense. Warfare was usually conducted with the genocidal aim of complete annihilation. The homicide rate in Pre-Columbian America is estimated to have been about a hundred times higher than in the present day U.S. About one-third of adult males died in warfare. In the healthiest communities, life expectancy at birth was probably no more than thirty-five years.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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American Thinker articles often make notable contributions, providing ideas and facts seldom presented elsewhere. This article, certainly the excerpt above, would not pass the political correctness tests of most publications.

I liked the observation (from the article, not the excerpt) that indigenous people of the Americas lived in the stone age. That is pithy statement, which I've never heard before.

A minor nit-pick is that several articles I've read could have used minor editing.

1 posted on 10/10/2016 7:21:05 AM PDT by ChessExpert
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I saw a list a while ago of the cities with the highest murder rates. Most were in Latin American countries where the population is predominantly descended from the pre-Columbian inhabitants. Why is that?

Maybe we should replace Columbus day with Charles Martel Day. Today is the anniversary of his victory in 732 at the battle of Tours.

2 posted on 10/10/2016 7:26:37 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ChessExpert

I celebrate Columbus Day because if the great voyages of discovery hadn’t taken place, the muslims would have taken over Europe.


3 posted on 10/10/2016 7:34:51 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: ChessExpert

“nasty, brutish, and short.”


Hobbes created that phrase as a description of mankind;
it’s pretty tacky to dump it on the abos.


4 posted on 10/10/2016 7:36:46 AM PDT by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Chicago is Latin American? Who knew?


5 posted on 10/10/2016 7:37:46 AM PDT by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)
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To: ChessExpert

Thanks for posting. Good to see an article with both sides.


6 posted on 10/10/2016 7:40:53 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: sparklite2

There were a few American cities in the top 50 but I think the worst ones in Latin America and Africa had far higher murder rates than any US city.


7 posted on 10/10/2016 7:47:18 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ChessExpert

Columbus deserves to be celebrated for his courage, sense of adventure, and his actual achievements which above all was making a very hazardous voyage and trailblazing a route to a new world.

To criticize him for being part of the culture of his days is moronic. The same can be said for those who criticize Jefferson and other founders for owning slaves.


8 posted on 10/10/2016 7:51:25 AM PDT by aquila48
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3 hazardous voyages. And that does not diminish the courage of earlier explorers.


9 posted on 10/10/2016 7:55:50 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic ( “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.”)
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To: sparklite2

The complete phrase is “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short”. It was offered as a description of human life in a “state of nature”. Civilization elevates us, to some extent, above it. As Christians, we believe that the Grace of God can elevate us completely above it (and will in the next life).


10 posted on 10/10/2016 7:59:19 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: ChessExpert

No invitations to the PC cocktail parties for this author!


11 posted on 10/10/2016 8:25:23 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Vince Ferrer

Hey youse guys, we Italians celebrate Columbus Day because Chris was Italian, capisce?

And the blacks and the Irish, even the Mexicans, they got their own day and it was high time we got ours.

Youse got a problem with that?


12 posted on 10/10/2016 9:03:48 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Verginius Rufus

That is an interesting finding from that list.

Columbus and Charles Martel are both worth celebrating.

I read once that Columbus hoped his expeditions would provide new wealth that would be used to take back the Holy Land.


13 posted on 10/10/2016 9:21:58 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It's not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Good reason. That is an interesting conclusion. It would seem a little hard to prove it, one way or the other.


14 posted on 10/10/2016 9:24:31 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It's not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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Books you need to read about the Indian Wars before your mind is perverted by modern apologists, movies and TV shows..

Massacres of the Mountains by J.p. Dunn Jr.

On the Border with Crook by Burke
My Life on the Plains by Custer
The Indian Wars of 1864 by Lt Ware.

Almost any book written by a Mountain Man. Andrew Garcia, Osborn Russell. John Y. Nelson, and way too many others.

Web sites;
http://www.dickshovel.com/scalp.html

http://phys.org/news/2015-10-mexican-site-yields-sacrifice-spaniards.html

http://westerndigs.org/infamous-mass-grave-of-young-women-in-ancient-city-of-cahokia-also-holds-men-study/

https://anthropology.net/2007/07/16/parallel-life-and-death-1275-ad-massacred-gallina-and-vanishing-anasazi/

http://ancientstandard.com/2007/07/17/csi-new-mexico-%E2%80%93-possible-genocide-ca-1275-ad/

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2885-mass-human-sacrifice-unearthed-in-peru/

http://archive.archaeology.org/9709/newsbriefs/anasazi.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/06/0601_wireanasazi.html

http://www.jeffposey.net/2015/08/18/were-the-anasazi-cannibals/

Back about 1980 there was a show on OETA Oklahoma called IMAGES OF INDIANS. In one episode, a young Indian man said Indians NEVER scalped or tortured anyone! “They would not do anything like that!” But they DID!

YEP! Ancient life in the Americas was all peaches and cream before the “evil” White Man showed up and brought civilization!


15 posted on 10/10/2016 9:40:44 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (HANDGUNS; You don’t need it until you need it. And when you need it you NEED IT!”)
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To: sparklite2

Shitcago has more Mexicans in it than does Mexico City.


16 posted on 10/10/2016 9:47:01 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: elcid1970

I celebrate Leif Erikson Day.......Hinga Dinga Durgen!


17 posted on 10/10/2016 9:47:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ChessExpert

An author that depicts Native Americans in a balanced fashion is Terry C. Johnston.

He wrote 31 books, mostly on western tribes, and early mountain men explorers.

He did a great deal of research for his stories.

https://www.amazon.com/Terry-C.-Johnston/e/B000AP969Q

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_C._Johnston


18 posted on 10/10/2016 9:51:43 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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Yeah, except Leif had a commie for a Dad. Erik the Red.

;^)


19 posted on 10/10/2016 9:57:29 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: aquila48

“To criticize him for being part of the culture of his days is moronic.”

Very true. This is something everyone should know. To understand a historical figure, you have to immerse yourself in that period and see things as they appeared in that time and place.

I wonder if the most vigorous enforcers of political correctness today would have been the most vigorous enforcers of political correctness in the past. Think of it as a personality trait. Perhaps a susceptibility to indoctrination, combined with an authoritarian personality. A bully of sorts.

So, for example, the people of today who see racism in everything, might have been members of the KKK if they had been around in the 1920s.


20 posted on 10/10/2016 10:02:52 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It's not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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