Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

DEA moves to ban kratom, frustrating both scientists and users
seattletimes.com ^ | 09/28/2016 | Brendan Kiley

Posted on 09/29/2016 1:25:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Maybe you’ve never heard of kratom — a plant from Southeast Asia with large, green leaves that are dried, powdered and taken as a drug with mild, opioid-like effects.

Kratom has been used in Asia for generations — usually chewed or brewed into a tea — as a tonic, painkiller and an aid for people weaning themselves off opium. It can be bought in powder or capsule form at smoke shops across the country.

But dedicated kratom users might want to stock up. As soon as Friday, the federal Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) says it will classify kratom as a Schedule I substance, putting it in a class of drugs — along with heroin, peyote and marijuana — that, per U.S. government policy, have “no currently acceptable medical use.” The Schedule I designation will make kratom illegal to possess or sell and more heavily restricted than cocaine or oxycodone.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: kratom; opiod; painkiller; wod

1 posted on 09/29/2016 1:25:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

A ‘Child of the Sixties’, I’ve heard and seen a lot in all the decades since then, but... this is the first time I’ve ever even heard of ‘kratom’!


2 posted on 09/29/2016 1:28:21 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

....no contributions to the DNC....NO SOUP FOR YOU


3 posted on 09/29/2016 1:35:03 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

I was listening to Coast to Coast tonight and kratom was mentioned by a nutritionist. He said CBD cannabinoid oil can be used instead. It’s used for pain, epilepsy, and various other things.


4 posted on 09/29/2016 1:36:04 AM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Kratom is mild stuff. One beer gives a better pain killing effect. Just the nanny state overregulating to force more people to big pharma pills.


5 posted on 09/29/2016 1:47:17 AM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jack Hammer

I had never heard of it either until last year when someone suggested I try it. I have MS and it seems pain at one level or another is a constant. Since my health care is through the VA, I know better than to have a milli-iota of any narcotic or marijuana in my system when I am seen by any PCP at the VAMC. So I tried kratom.

It works fairly well but perhaps I don’t use enough. In any event it has a pleasant taste and within 30 minutes of drinking the tea, I am again able to physically function without “thinking” about pain. That is a blessing.

As far as I can tell from years of experience being involved with drugs as a PCP, the DEA is run by veritable idiots controlled by Big PHaRMa.


6 posted on 09/29/2016 3:02:32 AM PDT by Bodega
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

They can do that by Fiat? Wow...


7 posted on 09/29/2016 3:09:42 AM PDT by Homer1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

In these parts, Kratom is marketed as a cure-all on barely-legible roadside placards. The signs say things like, “Got Stress? Try Kratom!” “Tired? Kratom!”


8 posted on 09/29/2016 4:07:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The coming of a Cthulhu presidency will be heralded by a worldwide wave of madness.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Homer1

The regulatory agencies now control the USofA, no need for congress anymore. Oh, yeah, we did it to ourselves.


9 posted on 09/29/2016 4:12:40 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Homer1

Yes, however Congress can challenge the recommendation and initiate a legal process in order to stop the reg. In this case, I highly doubt Congress will care.


10 posted on 09/29/2016 4:16:22 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

“Leash the Kratom”


11 posted on 09/29/2016 5:05:43 AM PDT by Buttons12
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

But NYC can open ‘clean’ heroin shooters centers

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/ritarubin/2016/03/30/clean-safe-places-for-heroin-addicts-to-shoot-up-coming-to-a-city-near-you/&refURL=https://www.google.com/&referrer=https://www.google.com/


12 posted on 09/29/2016 6:22:42 AM PDT by GailA (A politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Buttons12
My first thought was "I'll just grow it myself".

However:

"...Why not just grow new kratom trees from seeds? To some, this might sound like the simplest option – just sprinkle some seeds in the garden and add water, right? Unfortunately, unless you live in Southeast Asia and have a lot of time on your hands, growing kratom from seeds is extremely difficult.

Most kratom seeds lose their viability or “life force” within days of leaving the parent tree. So, most seeds that are shipped commercially are basically dead by the time they arrive. Some growers have had success by planting a vast number of seeds for every potential plant – perhaps many thousands to one. In order to do this, you’ll need a very large parcel of land, with some very specific conditions. The soil must be nitrogen-rich. There must be abundant sunlight, but not all of it can be direct, as kratom trees, also known as Mitragyna Speciosa, thrive in warm shade. If you do achieve a seedling, be prepared to fertilize, water, and protect it for at least a year before leaves will be ready for harvest. A truly abundant tree may take many years or even a decade before it is truly mature. ..."

13 posted on 09/29/2016 6:52:09 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: T-Bone Texan

the previous excerpt is from

http://kratomonline.wpengine.com/kratom-plants-for-sale/


14 posted on 09/29/2016 6:55:05 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson