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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So:

1. You like giving extra money to companies for your products

2. You don’t think that 4+ years of 80% or more of sales doesn’t mean about 80% of the total smartphone market (because, apparently, people keep their phones for longer than 4 years)

Got it!


85 posted on 09/05/2016 7:44:38 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan (I ride a GS scooter with my hair cut neat...)
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To: Shanghai Dan

1. You like being the product
2. You like one dimensional “proofs”

Got it


87 posted on 09/05/2016 7:47:59 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Shanghai Dan
So:

1. You like giving extra money to companies for your products

Let's see.

The Samsung Galaxy Note 7, 5.7" unlocked 64GB, an Android flagship smartphone, was selling for $969 retail list on Amazon at introduction before it was pulled because of exploding phone batteries.

The Apple iPhone 6S Plus, 5.5" unlocked 64GB, an iOS flagship smartphone, was selling for $749 retail list on Amazon.

There are a lot of people who were wiling to give Samsung even MORE money for an Android phone than people give Apple for their top-of-the-line iPhone. That makes your argument a bit specious.

2. You don’t think that 4+ years of 80% or more of sales doesn’t mean about 80% of the total smartphone market (because, apparently, people keep their phones for longer than 4 years)

As I've outlined for you before, even Samsung has admitted in court with sworn testimony that their product mix is NOT ALL SMARTPHONES. While they were all Android phones, in 2013, their product mix was approximately 30% smartphones, 40% Feature phones, and an additional 30% basic phones. In 2014, Samsung told their investors at their annual meeting that they REDUCED the smartphone component of their product mix to only 19% due to wanting to concentrate on the third world by increasing the Basic and Feature phone components. This concentration continued through 2015 and resulted in a successful expansion in those third world countries. Samsung did NOT do so well with this policy in China.

The fact is that a large percentage of Android so-called smartphones are NOT smartphones at all, but are instead either Feature Phones or just plain basic, dumb phones, but are COUNTED by Gartner and IDC as smartphones. Most of the white box Android phones are in this category as the white box makers don't even bother to compete in the higher end smartphone market at all, because that is locked up by the six to ten Android market leaders. They only compete in the lowest end feature phone and basic phone markets where they can eke out a living.

Apple ONLY makes smartphones and only competes in the high end, not in the middle and not ever in the low end.

I've told you this before, but you keep making excuses. Samsung lists specific models in their OWN catalog as "Feature Phones" but YOU want to categorize them as fully functional "Smartphones," contrary to Samsung and industry definitions. Just because a phone runs an Android operating system does not mean it is a smartphone. Got it!

You don't got it. You don't get it. This story is NOT about Android defeating Apple in the "Smartphone Wars." It's about both Apple iOS and Google Android destroying all other competitors with the demise of Blackberry's OS and Microsoft Windows Phone.

The BIG difference is that Microsoft Windows Phone just suddenly dropped out of the market, distorting the previous statistics to make the market share percentages different. The chart is now no longer including a player who once had 3% of the market. Microsoft just stopped selling phones. That percentage was suddenly added to the Android and iOS segments. Apple did not lose the customers it had, but those buyers who normally would have been buying Windows phones were split between Apple and Android. . .

118 posted on 09/06/2016 12:31:44 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Shanghai Dan

I keep my phones for longer than four years.
Obviously that requires a replaceable battery, so my requirements rule out a lot of models.


124 posted on 09/06/2016 5:10:51 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck?Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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