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People of Mexico, where have you gone?
Mexico National Statistics Institute ^ | 9/1/2016 | Self

Posted on 09/01/2016 7:52:29 AM PDT by Riflema

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To: spintreebob

They send increased fresh fruit and vegetables to us.
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Man the fresh vegetable business is going to change radically in the next ten years. There are vertical farms going up everywhere.

It won’t be long before the demand for vegetables that are flown north from california florida and points south is going to dry up.


21 posted on 09/02/2016 6:10:15 AM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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But the Mexican land ownership system is so lousy that it is more to blame than NAFTA.
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What’s the relationship between land ownership, low US grain prices and the failure of small farmers in Mexico due to NAFTA.


22 posted on 09/02/2016 6:11:46 AM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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In Mexico there is a major relationship between land ownership system and failure of small farmers.

Emphasis on the word small. An avocado farmer is not allowed to operate a farm of the ideal size for avocados considering cost of equipment, cost of financing, etc.
Same with almost every ag crop in Mexico.

The Trotsky loving revolution of 1917 is to blame for the re-distribution of land as a form of re-distribution of wealth.


23 posted on 09/02/2016 6:18:21 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Riflema

Excellent research.


24 posted on 09/02/2016 2:02:48 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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In Mexico there is a major relationship between land ownership system and failure of small farmers.

Emphasis on the word small. An avocado farmer is not allowed to operate a farm of the ideal size for avocados considering cost of equipment, cost of financing, etc.
Same with almost every ag crop in Mexico.
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Avocados didn’t go into boom times for Mexico until the mid 90’s or about the same time as NAFTA came into force.

Actually the same problem with ideal farm size and equipment has been very relevant to the USA as well. The big 1000 acre plus midwestern grain farms just killed the 100 acre US eastern grain farmers after 1920 or so. (my fathers family in Pennsylvania was among this group.) From the 1950’s-1990 you see could dead barns all over the eastern US countryside. Then in the 1990’s the wood in the dead barns became very valuable for the “antique oak” and “antique chestnut” business. The old dead barns fast disappeared. There are lots of 100 acre farms in the east now but they do other kinds of work plus they specialize. Or the farmers have second jobs. Or like the Amish —they share machinery. Generally, they can’t compete head to head on grain with the midwestern farmers.

American small farmers have the right to buy more land but most can’t afford more land.

Is that the case with Mexican small farmers. They have the right to buy more land but of course— they can’t afford it. Or do you mean that that Mexican small farmers literally don’t have the right to buy more land.


25 posted on 09/02/2016 4:26:11 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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Much of Mexico is like Chicago. There is the law. Then there is the political power. Business in Chicago can’t compete because there is a corruption tax/cost of doing business in bribes. The same in much of Mexico.


26 posted on 09/02/2016 7:04:07 PM PDT by spintreebob
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