Kush
Posted on 08/18/2016 10:13:26 PM PDT by LibWhacker
Caster Semenya, 25, a South African runner, is tipped to win the 800m But the athlete has ignited a debate about gender at the Olympic Games Semenya has testosterone levels three times the normal level in women She has no womb or ovaries but rather internal testes due to abnormality
Of all the stars at Rio, few are as hotly tipped for resounding victory as 800m runner Caster Semenya. Fewer still can match her for controversy.
There are those who say she should not be allowed to compete in the Olympics women’s 800m, which she is almost certain to win. No doubt they would also like to see her stripped of her former victories — gold and silver at the 2009 and 2011 World Championships and silver at the London 2012 Olympics.
It is not accusations of doping that dog the South African, though it does come down to chemistry. The question is whether she is, in fact, a biological woman.
Semenya, 25, has testosterone levels three times the normal level found in women and approaching those of a man. Furthermore, she has no womb or ovaries, and instead, owing to a chromosomal abnormality, internal testes.
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Cheating freaks... Off to the sideshow with the lot!
Need to add a third category - delusional.
Or perhaps 58 - that’s how many genders you can pick from in Facebook. Unfortunately Male and Female are not on the list.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/02/heres-a-list-of-58-gender-options-for-facebook-users/
[but his genetics will ALWAYS show male. That should probably be the deciding factor and not whatever the person identifies as. It isn’t fair to the women competitors.]
Give them their own OLYMPICS and call it the TRANS-AMS.
Kush
Should not.
It’s not fair to the women athletes.
Until tonight, I had never heard of nor seen Semanya or Wambui. When Wambui lined up to race with the gals, I was genuinely confused as to what this guy was doing out there. I was thinking, ‘Uh, hello, hasn’t anyone noticed that there’s a man in this race?!’ Then when Semanya raced, the commentator mentioned the controversy over ‘intersex’ athletes in women’s track. The situation is a total joke... political correctness at its most absurd. Why even bother having women’s sports if you’re going let these dudes make a farce of the whole thing?
Exactly...was trying to find out if they have a y chromosome. If they don’t then female. If the do then male.
I’m going to agree.
The person in question is an exceedingly rare case who just happens to have chosen to be a track and field athlete. They had to be put in competition with one of the sexes, and the athlete said she’s a woman.
Not a voluntary transgender or a doped up gay man trying to foist their way to Olympic gold, but a genuine biologically deviate man-girl. What are you gonna do?
What goes around comes around. Let the do gooders sort it out themselves. Gender neutral is in D actually.
What goes around comes around. Let the do gooders sort it out themselves. Gender neutral is in D actually.
Who knew Patton Oswald liked pearls?
Putting lipstick on a pig doesn’t make it a woman.
What you would do is apply an objective standard for determining whether Semenya is a man or a woman rather than just taking her word for it. The problem with allowing hermaphrodites with male testosterone levels to compete with normal women is that it’s unfair to normal women.
I can’t believe I had to scroll all the way down here to find the Austin Powers picture.
Free Republic is really slipping...there was a time when that would have (rightfully so!) been the FIRST post to the thread...:)
The Olympics have become a JOKE! Not worth one second of my time. I have watched NONE of it. Not even news coverage. I used to be fascinated by it. Although I do prefer the winter games. It is a complete sham.
-PJ
I would define who can compete in women’s events by testosterone levels. That’s simple and gets to the heart of why we have parallel events.
In my opinion, if you put this issue to an informed group, with nothing to indicate what the person thinks, says or identifies as a woman, just the facts of anatomy and biology, ten out of ten of those people, if they were forced to make a decision, would say he is male.
A incompletely developed male with internal testes, but male nonetheless. Genetically a male. Male by anatomy (though imperfect). Missing any biological features at all of a female.
One of the most critically and astonishingly insane things our society has done has been to accept that people are the gender or race they say they feel they are.
I find that to be nearly frightening, not because someone says they are female when they are male, or black when they are white, but because it openly indicates a rot in the moral and intellectual underpinnings of man.
Personally, I don't find any of this any different than someone who puts their hand inside their buttoned shirt and declares themselves Napoleon. (while simultaneously acknowledging this person is different from Bruce Jenner or Rachel Dolezal, both of whom I think are mentally ill. This person DOES have a physical malformation.)
We should be helping people like this become normal.
That said, this does clear up something for me. I had no idea who this person was or that there was even some kind of gender issue like this.
I haven't watched more than about ten minutes of the Olympics (I don't watch television) but my wife had it on and went to bed, leaving it on the television and I walked by when some women's track event was occurring. I paused and looked, and I saw...a guy. I stopped, puzzled, thinking..."What is a guy doing running with women? Is he pacing them or something? Maybe it is me. Maybe it is just a masculine looking woman, maybe it is just my eyes..." But the more I looked, the more convinced I was it was a guy, and the more it puzzled me. It wasn't a warm up lap or anything, it was a real event, and that was a guy running with them.
I have to tell you, I was puzzled enough to go in to ask my wife, who I figured would be able to tell me, but she had fallen asleep. I went back out and looked, and thought..."It isn't my eyes...that is a guy running with the women." At that point, I shrugged my shoulders and thought "Oh well. I have other things to do..." turned off the television and completely forgot about it until I saw this thread!
Real simple: if DNA tests show unambiguous XX chromosome, then the person competes with the women. Otherwise, the person competes with the men, period.
Then you would have trannies taking steps to suppress their testosterone level just before the Olympics, but retaining male bone density and musculature.
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