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1 posted on 08/13/2016 10:53:00 AM PDT by rey
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By the way, I ask this as an employer has asked me to mix two or three different bathroom cleaner, a 409 and scrubbing bubbles and comet.


2 posted on 08/13/2016 10:54:26 AM PDT by rey
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Mixing ammonia and sodium hypochlorite starts a chemical reaction that produces chloramine vapor. That’s how it’s different. There is also potential for hydrazine to form.


3 posted on 08/13/2016 10:55:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Ask Heisenberg...


4 posted on 08/13/2016 10:56:40 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (TRUMP THAT BEYOTCH!)
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Not remembering much on chemistry but mixing the two may well result in chlorine gas - you’ll know as it will kill you if you breathe too much.


5 posted on 08/13/2016 10:56:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Ammonia plus chlorine forms chloroamine (NH2Cl), a toxicand corrosive gas.

This is just one reason that one should not mix ammonia and bleach, despite each chemical being useful for cleaning.


7 posted on 08/13/2016 10:58:09 AM PDT by oblomov (We have passed the point where "law," properly speaking, has any further application. - C. Thomas)
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Also, the solution called “ammonia” is a different compound from ammonium chloride; it is ammonium hydroxide. Mixing it with the sodium hypochlorite solution initiates an electrophilic substitution reaction.


8 posted on 08/13/2016 10:58:24 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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From Wikipedia: Ammonium chloride is prepared commercially by combining ammonia (NH3) with either hydrogen chloride (gas) or hydrochloric acid (water solution):[3] NH3 + HCl → NH4Cl
10 posted on 08/13/2016 11:02:35 AM PDT by laker_dad
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People have been killed cleaning cloth diapers from an ammonia (from urine)and chlorine reaction.


11 posted on 08/13/2016 11:02:52 AM PDT by Renegade
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Ammonium chloride is an inorganic compound with the formula NH4Cl and a white crystalline salt that is highly soluble in water. Solutions of ammonium chloride are mildly acidic.

ammonium plu chlorine (mixing of the two) produces nasty gases that are not the same at all


13 posted on 08/13/2016 11:04:40 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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Ammonium chloride (NH4Cl) is a “salt”, the result of mixing an acid and a base; the “ammonia” and “chlorine” are chemically combined as two reactive ions.

The original acid would be HCl (hydrochloric acid) and the base NH4OH (ammonium hydroxide). The side-product of the reaction is water (H + OH).

While pure ammonia and chlorine are toxic gases (as is HCl), the salt is a stable white solid.


17 posted on 08/13/2016 11:18:02 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Back in the 80’s one of the maintenance guys at an apartment complex I fixed appliances at mixed a batch of clorox and ammonia in the bathtub. It got him, too.


20 posted on 08/13/2016 11:24:18 AM PDT by W. (Nuclear winter before President Hillary Rotten Clinton even gets a smidgen of a chance.)
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Chemist, here.

You get ammonium chloride, a salt, from the reaction of an acid, hydrochloric acid, with a base, ammonia.

This is very different from mixing ammonia with *an oxidizing agent*, chlorine. In that case, the primary result is that you don’t get a salt, the product of an acid-base reaction, but rather various products of the redox reaction, although hydrogen chloride is liberated and that does react with additional ammonia to form ammonium chloride, but this isn’t the redox product.

Intermediates are chloramines (highly toxic and smelly, probably the main reason why people are poisoned mixing ammonia with bleach), and these can dimerize into hydrazine (very toxic, used as rocket fuel), or go to completion with dimerization to form nitrogen trichloride, an oily and highly explosive liquid, somewhat analogous to the widely known, more sensitive, but less poisonous nitrogen triiodide.

When nitrogen trichloride explodes, you get nitrogen and chlorine. Sunlight, cracked glass, or modest impact is enough to set it off. Note that the explosion products are nitrogen (not ammonia) and chlorine - you don’t get the explosion energy for free; the reaction consumes ammonia and turns it into highly stable nitrogen.


23 posted on 08/13/2016 11:29:25 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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Mixing 1 gal ammonia and 1 gal common bleach works for getting rid of beaver infestations when shooting or trapping is not practical. Much more humane than snaring or foot hold trapping.

Safely done when containers in a very large funnel are placed on top of air hole and perforated with a .22 from a safe distance.


24 posted on 08/13/2016 11:31:37 AM PDT by redfreedom
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More fun to mix ammonia with iodine crystals.


29 posted on 08/13/2016 12:33:23 PM PDT by SC DOC
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Bump......


32 posted on 08/13/2016 9:09:42 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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It is safe to mix sulfur, charcoal and potassium nitrate.
It makes the cleaning a blast......


34 posted on 08/13/2016 9:47:04 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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