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1 posted on 08/05/2016 4:43:43 PM PDT by murron
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How about those polls using ‘adults’ or worse simply ‘Americans’ - gaslighting.


2 posted on 08/05/2016 4:46:15 PM PDT by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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Valid point.


3 posted on 08/05/2016 4:47:48 PM PDT by Williams (Make America Great Again)
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True -- but I thought Trump's Trump card was supposed to be the silent millions who never ever vote. Shouldn't polls of registered voters have him ahead...?

It's hard not to get demoralized, and with all these polls and the media hammering Trump 24/7 on everything little thing it's hard to know which end is up...But I don't believe he's as far down as they are saying, I don't believe his campaign is in the kind of reeling disarray they say it's in, and I DO believe he can win in November. Jesus take the wheel.

4 posted on 08/05/2016 4:48:02 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Police Lives Matter)
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The amazing thing to me is that the dead registered voters can be reached without use of a medium.


5 posted on 08/05/2016 4:49:39 PM PDT by Cboldt
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And many are oversampling Dems by a whopping 12 percent. To put that in perspective, the Gallup Party ID number is dead EVEN right now.

Even in the depth of the 2008 mess, when Bush was so unpopular, the Party Id gap was 8 or so.

There is no way on earth HRC is going to have a 12 percent advantage in party turnout. If memory serves, even with Obama Romney the gap was only 3 or so in 2012.

So the translation is, Trump is actually likely ahead, and possibly by a healthy margin...even WITH the Dem Convention and the so called “gaffes”.


6 posted on 08/05/2016 4:52:32 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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Good point. Thanks.

The entire elite formed one gigantic choir this week, all singing at the top of their lungs “Trump must go!”

I think we can expect this any time there is a lull in international bad news. They have shown they will not hesitate to whomp up some kind of illusionary “incident” out of thin air and go wall-to-wall with it, trying to ram it down our throats.

When the whole hive goes after a conservative, it is something to see.

I would imagine they will try to arrange a similar “incident” for the week before the election. An October Surprise, leveraged to the hilt by the MSM.


7 posted on 08/05/2016 4:56:00 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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Cherry picked democrat voters want Hillary. What a shock.


9 posted on 08/05/2016 5:04:11 PM PDT by Bullish (That establishment heads from both sides are exploding over Trump is the very best part.)
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The polls also do not reflect the enthusiasm gap. Also the cross-over vote.


12 posted on 08/05/2016 5:18:56 PM PDT by Parley Baer (")
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They only poll democrats so hillary is still slightly ahead even with the dnc fixing the race and the polls. In a real poll or in the real race she is actally behind. But if the say Trump is way ahead then they will not be able to fix the election.


13 posted on 08/05/2016 5:19:11 PM PDT by seawolf101
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Real Clear Politics polling has the following as Toss Up States.
This is where the election will be won for Trump if in fact he is to win.

Toss Up (151)

Arizona (11)
Florida (29)
Georgia (16)
Iowa (6)
Michigan (16)
Missouri (10)
Nevada (6)
North Carolina (15)
Ohio (18)
Virginia (13)
Wisconsin (10)
Maine CD2 (1)

Electoral Map:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html


15 posted on 08/05/2016 5:22:20 PM PDT by deport
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I took a statistics course in graduate school years ago. It was one of the best classes I have ever taken and I remember many things from that class that I apply to decisions I make in everyday life.

A poll is made up of numbers and statistics are just a way to analyze those numbers. And from what I learned in that class, one can make those numbers say anything you want, depending on your viewpoint or agenda.

BTW, the title of the textbook for the class was "How To Lie With Statistics."

18 posted on 08/05/2016 8:18:02 PM PDT by HotHunt
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