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Article based on IDC's guesstimates that Samsung's total number of Android phones have outsold Apple's iPhones in the 2nd calendar quarter of 2016.

No, Samsung has not beaten Apple in Smartphone shipments. They beat Apple in shipping total number of cellular phones in all categories. Not all of the phones Samsung ships are smartphones. . . not by a long shot.

These IDC and Gartner reports ALWAYS assume that the other cellphone makers only manufacture smartphones and report all their output as smartphones. That assumption is completely WRONG! Apple is the only cellular phone maker that only manufacturer that only produces smartphones. All of the other Android makers either produce a mixture of phone products or, choosing not to compete in that market, do not even produce a smartphone at all.

In fact, fewer than 30% of the cell phone product mix that Samsung manufactures are smartphones according to their own testimony as revealed in 2014. In 2013, Samsung shipped 30% smartphones, 40% Feature phones, and another 30% basic phones. . . but they were all loaded with Android OS so they were reported as being "smartphones" in the numbers reported by IDC and Gartner.

Apple does not sell Feature or basic Phones. Many of the other Android makers do not even make smartphones, concentrating instead on Feature or basic phones that sell well in the third world where there is a lack of bandwidth for internet connections. The third world markets was where Samsung made the decision to concentrate efforts in 2014 and later to expand their business.

In May or June of 2014, Samsung actually announced at their stockholders' annual meeting that they were forced by market conditions and the financial situation to REDUCE their smartphones in their product mix to only 19%.

Whether they have increased that back to the 30% of the 2013 levels is unknown. However, if they have, the number of smartphones actually shipped (not Feature phones or basic phones) in the 2nd calendar quarter of 2016 assuming they HAD returned to that 30% level, would be only 23.1 million, compared to Apple's 44.9 million (40.4 million newly shipped plus 4.5 million sold from inventory during that same quarter as per last Tuesday's Financial conference call).

Ergo, Apple sold almost TWICE as many REAL smartphones as did Samsung during that quarter when you compare like product to like product in the same category.

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23 posted on 07/28/2016 9:44:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

Well.

There’s some twisted logic using statements from 2-3 years ago. And calling phones that use Android as “not smartphones”.

I’ll go with the reported news, rather than the diatribe of an Apple fan.


25 posted on 07/28/2016 10:27:08 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan
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And from another article on the same subject:

"According to Samsung, it shipped about 90 million handsets in the April-June period with smartphones making up more than 80 per cent of the total, the Korea Herald reported."

So that's about 72 MILLION smartphones (80% of 90 million). Your twisted logic doesn't hold true. Nearly twice what Apple shipped. Sorry!

28 posted on 07/28/2016 10:37:57 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan
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To: Swordmaker

What is a “feature phone” with android? It’s a smart phone.


47 posted on 07/29/2016 7:32:55 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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