Posted on 06/27/2016 4:38:13 PM PDT by ZinGirl
Civil War movie. I saw this last night and I highly recommend it. I'm not a Civil War enthusiast nor do I claim to be an expert in either Civil War or wars in general. However, this movie moved me. "and that's all I have to say about that". :) (posting this in General/Chat. Don't want to break any rules or ruffle any feathers)
For some dude who lives in the north west, you sure sound Lost Cause
Thank you for your post and links. My husband is a bit of a Civil War buff. He liked the movie. Going in he assumed it was a war movie. The first several minutes were Saving Private Ryan/Civil War version. I had my eyes closed a lot to the brutality of war and thought, “I’ll not see any of the movie at this rate”. :) But it moved on to the actual story. My husband found it interesting on how much detail Gary Ross went into post-war.
As long as you acknowledge that the War of Northern Aggression and the atrocities committed by the North was a monumental stain on the honor of the North and remains a stain to this very day, we're all good!
Mr. Zin is a bit of a buff. Has always said Sherman could arguably have been tried for war crimes. Again, I'm not a buff and know precious little, but his March to the Sea was...ummmm..yikes.
Hi - I just wanted to thank you for your kind comments about FreeState. I WOULD thank you on the forum publicly, but didn’t want to open it up again! :)
NOOOO! ZinGirl...pay attention! Anyway, thank you Great Road. :)
My paternal Great Grandfather fought in Company C of the 29th Alabama Infantry, his brother, Ira, died in battle. My maternal Great Great Grandfather was in Company F of the 29th Alabama Infantry. A paternal Great Great Grandfather was in the 1st Regiment, South Carolina Volunteer Infantry at Fort Moultrie and Fort Sumter and never return home from the war.
The 29th Alabama Infantry Regiment was organized at Pensacola in February, 1862 with 1100 men engaged. The 29th was engaged at the Battle of Resaca with a loss of about 100 k and w, out of 1100 men engaged. At New Hope Church, the loss was very heavy, and at Peachtree Creek, the regiment was cut to pieces. On 28 July, near Atlanta, half of the regiment was killed and wounded in the fierce and protracted assault on the enemy's line. The 29th then moved into Tennessee with Gen'l John Bell Hood and lost very heavily in casualties at Franklin, and largely in casualties and prisoners at Nashville. A remnant of the 29th moved into the Carolinas where it was engaged at Kinston and Bentonville with considerable loss. It was consolidated with the 1st and 17th Regiments early in 1865, and fewer than 90 men surrendered at Durham Station, Orange County, NC on 26 April 1865.That was 1100 men decimated down to 90 men in three years. At that point my Great Grandfather was a brevet Captain because all of his officers were dead. A few weeks ago I stood at my GGF's grave with his brother's grave about fifteen feet away.
A deserter and murderer is a heinous criminal not to be glorified or aggrandized, especially for a few pieces of silver in Hollywood.
As long as you acknowledge that the War of Southron Treason and the atrocities committed by the South was a monumental stain on the honor of the South and remains a stain to this very day, we're all good!
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PS, If you google "Matthew McConaughey Newton Knight" images, you'll see that they are selling the clothes he wore in the movie online. Well, not his actual clothes, but the same outfits. Which is a little strange -- he's playing an impoverished dirt farmer back in Civil War days, but somehow he's also wearing fashionable duds available to you by a technology undreamed of 150 years ago.
Thank you. I heard that it was fiction, so that was no surprise.
I haven’t been in the army since 1981. Major John Pelham was in the Army of Northern Virginia and despite being a Boston Yankee I find him a compelling figure of courage and bravery. Hence Gallant Pelham as my screen name.
FOUND IT! TAP ROOTS with Van Heflin and Susan Hayward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tap_Roots
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040861/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Some feel "Free State" is "revisionist, Hollywood PC garbage", saying Knight was a "murderous, deserting traitor". I have actually SEEN the movie, and Gary Ross (director) makes no bones about it: Knight *is* a murderous, deserting traitor... so not much revisionist there. He left (desertion was a big problem North AND South) and stayed gone because the very government he was supposedly fighting for was doing a piss-poor job of NOT leaving a scrap of food for women and children left behind to live on. Commandeering all food and prospects of getting food from homesteads led to starvation....thaaaat's kind of murder right there. If my husband found out that his family was being purposefully starved by the very group of men he had been sent out to 'fight for', he might have pulled a Knight and said, "screw this noise...". He would have a hard time just shrugging his shoulders and saying, "well...that happens". Somehow, if it had ONLY been at the hands of the Union instead of one's own side, it would have made more "sense" (sorry...lack of a better way to word that).
Who knows. It was a gruesome time and it's far easier to make judgement call on what one should/shouldn't do when not under the exact same conditions. I still found it to be an excellent movie. Thank you again for the links and for your interest.
***He left (desertion was a big problem North AND South) ***
Just an interesting note on desertion, in the book THE INDIAN WARS OF 1864 by Lt Ware, when he was at Fort Sedgwick in Colorado during the Civil war, there was a constant stream of pioneers still heading to California.
He noticed many of the men still wore bits and pieces of Confederate uniforms.
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