Posted on 06/13/2016 8:07:56 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
Antidepressants in young people may do more harm than good, warn scientists.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/06/08/antidepressants-in-young-people-may-do-more-harm-than-good-warn/
*"researchers at Oxford University who carried out the review said effectiveness and safety of antidepressants taken by children and teenagers remained unclear because of the poor design and selective reporting of trials, which were mostly funded by drug companies."
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
The only effective antidepressant is Sunshine and/or Vitamin D. I have watched D-3 supplements straighten out three different friends and relatives. One of them continues to take the supplement all year. Two take it only in winter when the sun is at a bad angle and they cover up against cold. They have had no episodes of the up down cycles they used to experience and no depression at all. A fourth had been diagnosed with Bipolar disorder and has quit all the medications which had zombified her and has had no recurrences in over a year.
A voice of reason on this sea of ignorance. Over 12 years ago I was diagnosed with anxiety depressive disorder. Life was not worth living (and yes I am a Christian and God was there for me) But a carefully proscribed regimen of SSRI’s and counseling helped lead me out of this dark place. I believe there is a role for carefully administered pharmaceuticals!
If only somebody’d had the sense to give the Columbine lads some magic mushrooms...
“A hallucinogenic chemical found in magic mushrooms has successfully lifted severe depression in previously untreatable patients.
“Scientists at Imperial College London induced intense psychedelic trips in 12 people using high doses of the banned substance psilocybin.
“A week after the experience all the volunteers were depression-free, and three months later five still had no symptoms of the condition.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/05/17/magic-mushrooms-lifts-severe-depression-in-trial/
Dr. Charles Gant SSRI violence connection:
School Shootings and Psychiatric Drugs Update | Dr Charles Gant
http://cegant.com/commentary/school-shootings-and-psychiatric-drugs-update
School Violence
The following are reports of teens committing acts of school violence during an 18 year period from 1988-2006 (footnote 6), beginning only one year after the first SSRI antidepressant was approved for the U.S. market for adult use only. More than half of the teens committing these acts were taking SSRI antidepressants.
1988
1. September 26, 1988, South Carolina: James Wilson, 19, went on a shooting spree in an elementary schoolyard in Greenwood, killing two 8 year olds, and wounding 7 other children and 2 teachers. He was taking Xanax and for the eight months prior to the shooting had been taking several psychiatric drugs.
1997
2. October 1, 1997, Pearl, Mississippi: Luke Woodham, 16, shot two students to death and wounded seven others after beating and stabbing his mother to death. Public reports say the boy was taking Prozac.
3. December 1, 1997, West Paducah, Kentucky: 14-year-old Michael Carneal was on Ritalin, when he started firing a gun during a prayer meeting at a high school, killing three teens aged 14 to 17, and wounding five other students, including one who is paralyzed.
1998
4. March 1998, Arkansas: Andrew Golden, 11, and cousin Mitchell Johnson, 13, went on a shooting spree at Westside Middle School in Arkansas, killing four students and one teacher. Nine students and a teacher were also wounded. In a review of the book Teenage Rampage: The Worldwide Youth Phenomenon, both boys were reported to be taking Ritalin.
5. May 21, 1998, Oregon: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Kinkel had been taking Prozac and an amphetamine.
6. Pocatello, Idaho: An unnamed 14 year old held 5 classmates hostage with a gun. He surrendered to the police and fortunately no one was hurt. He was taking Zoloft.
1999
7. April 16, 1999, Idaho: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.
8. April 29, 1999, Taber, Alberta: An unnamed 14-year-old student from W.R. Myers High School shot two students, killing one. He began taking prescribed Dexedrine immediately prior to the shooting.
9. April 20, 1999, Colorado: 18-year-old Eric Harris, the ringleader in the Columbine massacre was taking Luvox that the coroner confirmed was in his system through toxicology reports. He and his co-shooter, Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 23 others before killing themselves.
10. May 20, 1999, Georgia: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.
11. December 6, 1999, Fort Gibson, Oklahoma: 13-year-old Seth Trickey fired at least 15 shots at Fort Gibson Middle School wounding four classmates. He was undergoing psychological counseling and was probably being medicated, although those records are sealed.
2000
12. March 7, 2000, Williamsport, Pennsylvania: Elizabeth Bush, 14, was taking Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.
2001
13. January 10, 2001, Oxnard, California: A 17-year-old gunman fired shots at Hueneme High School before taking a female student hostage. He was later shot and killed by police. Prior to the shooting he had been treated for mental illness and was probably taking psychiatric drugs.
14. March 22, 2001, California: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been prescribed the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor.
15. April 2001, Washington State: 16-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and took 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. According to another student, “Cory was yelling and then he just stopped, looked down at the gun in his hand and woke up.” Fortunately, no one was hurt. Cory had been taking Effexor and had no memory of the incident.
2003
16. January 2003, Elliot City, Maryland: Ryan T. Furlough, 19, killed a Centennial High School classmate by spiking his soda with cyanide. He was being treated with Effexor.
2004
17. February 2004, Greenbush, New York: 16-year-old, Jon Romano strolled into Columbia high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. The boy was treated with medication for depression.
2005
18. March, 2005, Minnesota: Jeff Weise, 16, shot dead his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 8 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself. He was taking Prozac.
19. November 8, 2005, Jacksboro, Tennessee: Kenneth Bartley, a student in high school shot and killed an assistant principal. The principal and another assistant principal were wounded. He had previously spent about a year and a half in a residential juvenile treatment program, where he was likely prescribed psychiatric drugs.
2006
20. August 30, 2006, Hillsborough, North Carolina: Alvaro Castillo, 19, killed his father, then opened fire at Orange High School, wounding two students before surrendering to police. He had been involuntarily treated in a state psychiatric hospital, and such commitment nearly always involves drugs.
21. October 10, 2006, Charleston, South Carolina: Tyrell Glover, 19, took an air rifle to Burke High School where he planned to hold students hostage and be gunned down by police. He had been taking an antidepressant for several years but his mother took him off the drug when she saw the listed side effects in ads. However, Tyrell began taking Prozac again for approximately six months. Whether he was taking a psychiatric drug or withdrawing from it at the time of this hostage/suicide plan is yet to be confirmed.
ECT does work. It’s actually a LOT more effective than most therapies even though the mechanism isn’t know. I know somebody who was catatonic and got their life back as a result.
It’s also extremely regulated, a hell of a lot more than Prozac. Considering the side effects and efficacy of pills, it should be the other way around.
No, they just single out the most vulnerable people who are looking for help and tell them that the drug will make everything better. So of course people are going to take them voluntarily, under these false pretenses.
Man, there’s an authoritative comment /sarc
I had people try to get me on that stuff back during the “Prozac Nation” days of the late 90s.
No thanks. My woodshop and a drink st the end of the day worked far better.
antidepressants contribute to global warming!
No doubt. I have never taken any of them. It is mostly by choice that people take them.
For the depressed-— there is a time release 5HTP at 200mg
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/natrol-5-htp-time-release-200-mg-30-tabs
Also a bulk (cheaper) quick acting 5HTP that also can also be bought via Amazon to get up to the $49 for fee shipping
http://www.bulksupplements.com/5-htp-griffonia-seed-extract.html
For a real problem I would get both and use as needed.
I’ve read of people who micro dose Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms (less than a gram) everyday and swear that it is better than any anti-depressant because it doesn’t have the side effects of pharmaceutical drugs.
Actually, anesthetics has rather profound psychotrophic effects.
I thought Koch established the germ theory of disease?
I agree, the chemistry of the brain is complex, then again, the chemistry of most organs is amazingly complex—take the liver for example. An yet, everything that comes out of the GI tract goes through the liver for usually, some type of processing. For the record, I have never taken any of the medications for the brain. However, one must consider the profound CNS effects of ethanol and look at the havoc it wreaks on lives everywhere.
There are some herbs that will do the trick with zero side effects.
Do not give young people SSRIs.
My mother, in her 80s with Alzheimer’s, is on them, because it keeps her happy and not agitated. That is one good use for SSRIs.
Children are forced to take them.
I am familiar with the VIOXX disaster and others as well, but the vast majority have helped mankind. Have you ever conducted a clinical trial? I will answer for you: no you have not.
If you are concerned with psychotropic drugs, consider the fact that most people simply take ethanol to overcome their depression and anxieties. Where do you stand on that?
A voice of reason on this sea of ignorance. Over 12 years ago I was diagnosed with anxiety depressive disorder. Life was not worth living (and yes I am a Christian and God was there for me) But a carefully proscribed regimen of SSRI’s and counseling helped lead me out of this dark place. I believe there is a role for carefully administered pharmaceuticals!””
Absolutely. I am glad you have been helped. We know there is abuse of prescription drugs, but that is not the point. The article poster made a ridiculous claim painting our legal drug industry as some villainous monster. This is the approach of the Luddites to all of science. By the way, most people simply turn to alcohol to solve their problems.
If children are forced, that is definitely wrong. I am in way defending such a practice.
Yep, I've been saying that for years. The "Final Frontier" is not space. Neurology is, in fact, the Final Frontier.
Disappointing strawman / red-herring logical misdirect.
The side-effects of drinking ethanol are well known, fully disclosed and dosage is up to the user.
The issue is that there have been too many instances of big pharma demonstrating repeated gross negligence and fraud for the drugs they manufacture and sell to the public.
Read the damn NIH medical study acknowledging that pharma has repeatedly been found guilty of conflict of interest bias due to self-funding clinical trials, cherry picking favorable results, and failing to disclose adverse reactions to the drugs they sell us.
The public, you, your children, your parents should Never have to take a medication that has undergone dishonest trial scrutiny to ensure high efficacy and safety.
Hippocratic oath states: “do no harm”.
Period, end of discussion.
The ClinicalTrials.gov Results Database — Update and Key Issues
“KEY TRIAL-REPORTING POLICIES
Section 801 of the Food and Drug Administration Amendments Act (FDAAA)1
expanded the legal requirements for trial reporting at ClinicalTrials.gov.
(NIH study document direct quote, * emphasis added)
It was passed into law amid
concerns about *ethical and scientific issues affecting the design, conduct, and reporting of
clinical trials,2 *including the suppression and selective reporting of results based on the
interests of sponsors,3 unacknowledged alterations of prespecified outcome measures,4 “offshoring” of human-subjects research,5 and *failure to report relevant adverse events.6”
Per NIH study publication:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3066456/
RE: “I am familiar with the VIOXX disaster and others as well, but the vast majority have helped mankind. Have you ever conducted a clinical trial? I will answer for you: no you have not.
If you are concerned with psychotropic drugs, consider the fact that most people simply take ethanol to overcome their depression and anxieties. Where do you stand on that?”
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