Posted on 06/04/2016 5:45:43 AM PDT by BenLurkin
This is the final push to make cars so expensive that the average human will never be able to afford them. The push to urbanize and socialize continues.
>>You havent been to Oregon....where people drive UNDER the posted speed<<
Indeed I have — there and Hawaii (the latter even has minimum speed limits posted).
>>True, and this will leave humans free to text and facebook while going to/from Walmart.
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They do it now with complete abandon.
>>This is the final push to make cars so expensive that the average human will never be able to afford them. The push to urbanize and socialize continues.
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The $$ is in the R&D, not the equipment. It is in no one’s interest to price average people out of the market.
The push to socialize and urbanize will reveal itself when they start taxing driverless vehicles.
If the damn driverless car is talking back and forth to someone when it’s supposed to have its sensors on the road, then I want NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
Cars are already twice as expensive as they need to be. This will push it over the top.
Right now, the technology alone adds $70,000 to $100,000 to the cost of a vehicle. Few people could pay that much more for a magic flying carpet, let alone a car. Automakers are wrestling to make it affordable, and there are projections that by the time autocars go into mass production, the additional cost might fall to between $3,000 and $5,000.
I have worked in embedded software for 45 years. Something ALWAYS occurs that the software can’t handle. Programmers are not gods.
“Murphy” happens. He’s the law and he doesn’t shive a git if the car has a driver or not.
Absolute bull$hit.
Modern air traffic control simulates each aircraft from takeoff to landing, including insertion into the pattern. Aircraft take off and land at no closer than 30 second intervals, generally 1 minute intervals. It is all these computers can do at the national volume of aircraft.
Driverless cars will not have the benefit of an outside computer plotting and interleaving individual trips. I suspect driverless cars are destined to look like a bad idea.
Disney rides are all on tracks.
Gotta admit, that was funny.
And a Volvo to boot...
Murphy was an optimist.
OTOH, there are critical places where they may be a death sentence when a human could take terrain, escape routes, etc., into consideration.
There have been cases where "stability control" has caused cars to lose control where a human might not because they can't see/recognize a pothole/loose sand or gravel, and other conditions and take them into account.
>>Programmers are not gods.<<
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!
;)
They’ll certainly be better drivers than Chinese people!
I’m thinking that they might drive just like Chinese people.
Yeah , we will have to create a Federal Motor Vehicle Traffic Control bureaucracy, and turn over our control to a centralized government type agency.
That would be bad.
Its probly already in the works.
>>Driverless cars will not have the benefit of an outside computer plotting and interleaving individual trips. I suspect driverless cars are destined to look like a bad idea.<<
It will probably be massive cooperative processing where all the cars talk to all their neighbors all the time and also monitor them to make sure everyone does what it says it is going to do.
There will probably shared operational nodes (think cell tower functions in that milieu) to coordinate them all.
This is not dissimilar to how the Internet operates and when TCP/IP was introduced as part of a “web of webs” a scant 30 years ago, many said it was impossible to get more than a few hundred thousand on it (I know, I was there).
I am not saying there will be no errors — I am saying that after a point there will be no more than with human drivers.
The biggest problem will be the mix of humans and computers — I have no idea how that will be handled (except to kick human drivers off the highways).
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