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To: 4Zoltan

I do not say that the hand could not belong to anybody but Dolliana, since Yamamoto’s leg is visible in one of the images.

I do say that multiple people were standing because I see them above the water with lifejackets not touching the water. And I know what one of the passengers told an interviewer which confirms that they were standing. I don’t know if that’s been disclosed yet so that’s all I’ll say.

I also saw the bathymetric chart that rx presented showing a depth of 1 meter near there. And I saw the image evidence that the plane was tipping on a fulcrum.

There’s a LOT of stuff that hasn’t yet been disclosed, and it will reveal just how desperately you folks are picking and choosing what you address and what you ignore.

Where did Marilyn Briley get that “lifejacket” that was holding her up - that she was holding onto underwater, with the phallus shape sticking out between her legs? And what was it for? Why did she have that instead of the lifejacket that Hollstein claims he put on her in the plane before she exited? And where on the video do we see her acquire that piece of equipment?


545 posted on 09/01/2016 7:23:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; 4Zoltan; WildHighlander57; Fred Nerks; little jeremiah; bushwon; rodguy911

Much as these passengers would tell falsehoods about being a mile-and-a-half from shore, or even 500 yards from shore, the pre-planned nature of this exercise tells us, just as the salvage company owner said, "The plane was found 200-300 yards from shore," very near where it first when down.

And within 200-300 yards from shore, as Butterdezillion alluded, was an area very near to the point of ditching where the NTSB's bathymetric map shows the bottom to have been a mere 1 meter deep. From that point, the passengers could have swum if not walked to shore.

The satellite image above middle shows the bottom had alternating very shallow areas that contained some sunken pools. A person could be videoed with 20' of blue water apparently all around, then moments later with two dog-paddle efforts, be standing on the ocean floor to rest from any stress or acting.

In the four, upper-left images, we see Flip is able to stand in many places throughout the scenario, spanning from the very first few minutes after ditching to an hour later, as he walks the last 30 yards to dry land.

In the image immediately below that of Rosa in the upper left image, we see Flip Hollstein had no trouble keeping 12-14” of his torso above water while standing straight up, just five yards or so from the airplane

The Deputy Health Director is seen in the lower left two pictures to be able to stand while he was within inches of Ms Fuddy. Also knowing that skilled, professional, US Navy-trained divers were just yards away, would that be a place one could expect to be fearful, hyperventilate and have a cardiac episode?

In the lower middle, see how much of her body Rosa Key is able to keep above the water line! Knowing of the nearby presence of US Navy divers and how the HDOH DD could stand so near to Ms Fuddy should tell us all we need to know and whatever else was left to guess about how stressful this scenario needed to be for Ms Fuddy.

Though Mrs. Key was quoted in the media, saying she and her husband were badly shaken and traumatized during the event, there’s also a lot of evidence to the contrary in the videos.

On the lower right we see images of the videographer being able to stand on the ocean floor as well.

In one interview, Passenger Bruce Briley—who never was said to have made it near shore—was asked how the ocean floor there was to stand on; he said, without hesitation, “Squishy.” (See him standing just to the right of the middle of the collage, while he was just a few yards from the plane. How do you suppose the world will think he was able to keep two foot of his torso above water?

Though Hollstein choose to walk the final yards to shore, the Keys, the videographer and Yamamoto just waited near shore to be helicoptered out of the water, despite there being evidence they could touch bottom, and that they, too, could have walked out, if they’d been so inclined.

It took one helicopter only 14 minutes to bring all four of those passengers (the videograph, the HDOH DD, and the two Keys) waiting in the shallows, one at a time, to shore.

547 posted on 09/01/2016 8:31:12 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: butterdezillion
Marilyn had certainly had a verve for what she was doing.

The only way she would have strapped on that "sporty" combo life jacket and electronics package would have been if she had been informed thereof in advance. By design and fit, it kept Marilyn afloat quite nicely while its uncircumcised tip/antenna stayed just above the water-line.

Similarly, her husband (bottom right) tended to that package with foreknowledge as it was being transformed (lower-left two pictures). He would have to know that it was to become Marilyn's life jacket after the group left the plane area.

The reader will recall that it was seen under the raised tail of the aircraft (middle picture) as the videographer first stood on the ladder to exit. Hence, that to-be-unfolded package that would become a well-used prop in the scenario was on-scene within seconds of the ditching, which could only have been achieved by design and pre-planning.

The contents of the baggage pod were exploded out of that space as the right front of the pod broke open upon hitting the water as the plane traveled at 80+kts. The contents were expelled by a rush of 70+kt water that ejected them through the aft port baggage door (seen below, middle left), then behind the plane. This happened within the first second or two as the airplane settled onto the water. Either that, or maybe you'll opt to say the plane hit something solid as "it came to abrupt stop" in Flip Hollstein's words.

 
The pristine, very light "passenger bag" doesn't float away or blow way in the currents or winds, despite passenger claims concerning conditions. The combo life jacket /electronics package that floated right atop the water (80% above water) while ostensibly carrying 40+lbs of luggage would not be sitting for minutes on its own, just below tail section.

Neither did such a bag did not come from the baggage pod. Bruce's, the pilot's and Marilyn's highly-choreographed moves with that special bag show that it obviously an integral part in the pre-planned activity of the ditching aftermath. It neither could have been left to chance that the passengers would extract it from the baggage pod, or do "the odds" allow that it would be the only bag from among several that didn't eject in a trail tens of yards to hundreds of yards behind the airplane. That could only have happened as a result of planning, before an accidental engine failure could have been anticipated. No other piece of baggage that came from the pod was seen near the airplane.

550 posted on 09/01/2016 1:18:59 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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