[4Zoltan]

Some screen shots

Image 1

Notice what is missing in Image 1? The head of the "manikin" is not visible over the top of the headrest.

Image 2

Notice what is missing in Image 2? Jake's head is missing and the edge of "manikin" head is beginning to show where the headrest meets the top of the screen.

Image 3

Jake's head is still missing but the top of the "manikin" head is clearly visible over the top of the headrest. Remember in Image 1 the "manikin" head was not visible over the top of the head rest.

Image 4

Image 5

In image 4 & 5 the head of "manikin" is more visible. Bright sunlight completely washes out the color in the headrest edge. Jake's pony tail could be hidden by the seat back.

[WildHighlander57]

Thanks!

Can you grab what’s between your #1 and #2?

[butterdezillion]

We don’t see all the way to the other end of the neckrest and the other blue cap (the taller blue cap, with reddish hair at the nape and no ponytail or straight black hair to be seen anywhere) was on the other side of the neckrest. So that image tells us nothing.

All it takes is one photo showing both Jake and this other blue cap at the same time, and rx posted that.

[butterdezillion]

If Jake was scooting his butt over in the seat (which would be necessary for him to be sitting straight up when “his” blue hat shows on the window side of the neckrest) then why don’t we see his head above the neckrest as he scoots over?

What you’ve posted shows that he did NOT scoot over, as is necessary for the scenario you guys are relying on.

The absence of a mannequin at any point means nothing, since a mannequin could easily have been leaned forward in the seat so it wouldn’t show over the back of the seat - and brought upright at any point, especially if being prepared to carry it out.

But if there is a photo showing Jake on one side of the neckrest at the same time as the blue cap is on the other side, that destroys your hypothetical scenario. What say you to the image that rx posted which claims to do just that?

And on all these photos what you guys are overlooking is that black head of hair that shows under Jake’s hat every time. Except when it’s a different-shaped blue hat on the other side of the seat after Jake did NOT scoot over... in which case it is reddish hair at the nape.

And the best anybody can do is say that the NTSB mis-labeled the lifejacket as being Fuddy’s? Keep in mind that the USCG said they cut that lifejacket away from Fuddy, and that is the only lifejacket that is cut.

[WildHighlander57]

Thqnks for posting that sequence, 4zoltan!

Compare the distance between the seat top and the bottom of the cap, in figure 1 (Mr Key when plane level)
and that same distance in figures 4 and 5, (when plane sharply banked).

If it’s the same person, it should be about the same, taking into account any slight leaning over to the right from the plane’s motion.

What I’m checking is the height of the person sitting in that seat, at the two different views.

Same height? Then it’s the same person.