Credit to Pookie18
Posted on 04/19/2016 11:49:04 AM PDT by pgyanke
Credit to Pookie18
I don't know about you but I'm sick and tired of this election season. FR has turned into a bickering board of bitter bubbleheads, it seems. Where we used to see Ted Cruz as a principled conservative... we now attack anyone who likes him as a "Cruzite" or "Cruzombie"... what happened?
First, there was the attack against him that he played dirty tricks in Iowa by relaying an MSM message that Carson was leaving the race. What would you do? If you are in a popularity contest against multiple opponents, wouldn't you make sure that the votes of an ideological brother weren't wasted on a failed effort? It's a logical reasoning... and you don't have days to debate it in committee, you have minutes and seconds before votes are tallied. That Cruz apologized at all for this news media-inspired fiasco shows him to be the bigger man.
Then what? He's following the rules and gathering delegates? I thought we wanted someone who knows how the game is played and can win elections... silly me. The Trump supporters don't seem to realize that DT is not the closer he claims to be. He is riding a wave of populism but is losing on the rules because he is disorganized and unprepared.
Saying all of this doesn't mean I am anti-Trump... I am anti-Dem whether the Dem is Hillary, Bernie, or Biden. Doesn't matter to me. If Trump is the eventual nominee, he will get my vote to stop the Dem machine's destruction of our great country.
In the primary, though, I want the most conservative in the race who has shown he knows how to win. That man is Ted Cruz. Why he is slimed on a conservative board is beyond me... and it saddens me. Maybe he isn't your guy... fine. Why does he have to be slimed? If he does manage to pull out an upset... what have you accomplished but hurting our best chance for conservative restoration in this country?
You say:
“Cruz is lucky the debates were over just as it dawned on people that he is no “outsider”
All prior debates were full of name calling and posturing. Cruz stayed out of the name calling, but would question Trump’s past stands on issues. Instead Trump would reply with Lying Ted, and generalized statements that he is going to make America great again, and you’re gonna like it.
When we got down to two major candidates, Trump bailed.
Trump throws out statements that if make by any other candidate would destroy that person’s campaign. Instead we constantly see his statement ignored.
Now like the school yard bully Trump now has a new moniker for Hillary. He’s calling her Crooked Hillary.
I will vote for Trump if he is our nominee, but am afraid that future debates with the Democrat nominee will again be nothing more than name calling a posturing.
Maybe that’s the plan. The majority of voters will eventually get fed up with this and vote Hillary or Bernie.
Absolutely, his face is a dead giveaway to his new and old bad habits,lying,cheating,doing illegal calisthenics to try to fit his square carcass into a round hole. It is not working.
Unfortunately for him, most people got what he meant when he said it, that New Yorkers are pushy, loud, unChristian, aggressive, unethical, etc. It was a most unfortunate and unguarded moment of a type that throws a wrench into his image. That tap dance about taxes, regulation, etc was just backpedaling. And Trump had already been denouncing the establishment about all those issues for months.
Trump does appear to be a a master of marketing misdirecting his minions to minor issues.
Good points all. I worked in the private sector all my life except for a three year period with State government at a fairly high level, reporting to the guy who reported to the governor. The working and managerial environments and demands are very different. And while I agree that some of the skill sets of those at the highest levels overlap (they would have to - effective leaders rise to challenges whether those are military, government, or business) the restraints the presidency would place on someone whose entire career has been unconstrained concerns me about Trump. Well, that and I have an issue with someone who is so easy to bait. Trump’s bravado and obvious thin skin to any criticism comes across to me as compensations, but for what I don’t know. But I don’t begrudge others supporting him. At the end of the day all each of us has is one vote.
We need to rally around the front runner so the GOPe cannot insert their Uniparty NWO candidate.
Cruz can’t win. He’s a GOPe spoiler or splitter.
We need to rally around Trump in unity now.
Calling Cruz an "anti-American globalist" doesn't give YOU any points in my book....so, you sort of make my point for me--to wit: This website has become a mess, not a thoughtful discussion forum for talking about what our Republic really needs.
You also declared that Cruz has
flip-flopped continuously thru out the election
In the first place, I think you have drastically overstated Cruz's "flip-flopping" and completely overlooked Trump's most of Trump's flip-flopping life--not to mention Trump's incessant walking back of sundry statements during the campaign.
Fair enough? I think so.
You also declared that Cruz is
sponsored and funded by the GOPe
Cruz and the GOPe comprise strange and likely very temporary bedfellows. Cruz is not stupid enough to reject the old-line GOP guys' help. (After all, Cruz is running as an Republican and has to play by ironclad Party rules.) To his further credit, Cruz pointed out that he was not involved in trashing Melania Trump.
The take-home point is that you are just insinuating that Cruz is a sell-out to the dastardly GOPe, whereas I would respond that there is no evidence of that. (Trump has been playing you--by incessantly and falsely charging Cruz, for example, of cheating.)
The GOPe has held its myriad of blue-blooded noses and reluctantly backed Cruz in the hopes that Cruz can force a brokered convention--perhaps even enabling GOPe guy like Kasich or to slip in (although they are surely realizing that these plans were naïve).
If you think the GOPe really likes Cruz, you are dead wrong. They don't like anyone outside of the Old Boys Network.
I did explain it. If you don't understand the original intent of the Constitution well enough to understand how they both violate it, I can't fix that for you.
Keep changing subjects all you like, it doesn't alter your original fallacy one little bit nor does it explain away the fact that Ted Cruz is just one more Harvard Lawyer making a lot of promises with no track record of ever accomplishing a thing.
If you want to talk about Cruz, don't pretend to want to talk about the original intent of the Constitution. You aren't good enough to make that work.
Does the 17th Amendment alter the original Constitution?
An honest answer to both those questions undermines your entire argument that equates keeping an EPA ethanol mandate with something not found in the Original Constitution prior to an Amendment being passed.
It's just that in the entire history of the U.S., we have never had a president born in another country. And since the cultural integrity of the U.S. has been under constant and escalating attack, this is a hot-button issue with the public. Cruz himself said that Obama is not an NBC at the time of his first election because his father was British. Now, he has changed his tune. This does not inspire trust in his integrity or "principles."
You're absolutely right. One of them is a legitimate change to the Constitution, done in accordance with original intent.
The other is a flat-out fraudulent usurpation of power never intended by the people who wrote and ratified the Constitution, and never altered by the process of amendment.
There is no comparison.
Don’t forget “fake but accurate”, and how Buckhead solved the fake document question.
Is the EPA a creation of Congress or an entity dictated by the Constitution ?
The natural born citizen requirement is a fundamental Constitutional issue of eligibiity. Federal income tax returns, not so much. Plus, he has explained why he did not release them yet.
Many of his positions have become exactly the same as Trump's — AFTER Trump diagnosed the issues, put them forward forcefully and the public responded with great enthusiam. Sometimes Ted even copies the exact same terminology Trump has put out there first. Trump is an original thinker and visionary. Ted is a tactician and reactionnary. Together, they would have made a great team, and Ted could have gone on to run for president next time and the next. But he got greedy and arrogant instead.
Yes. It is one of those.
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Cruz was born a US citizen.
That is what “natural born” means.
He is certainly the only candidate that has done anything for the American people. Probably the only one that even can do anything.
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So your choice to fix it is a rich guy from a rich family who brags about buying and selling politicians?
You have a problem with a man who has lived the American Dream and has worked very hard? His father and himself amassed wealth through hard, steady work, not inheritance and then sitting idle. Likewise, all his children work and are very productive, including his daughter, whom he could have spoiled instead. Even his wife has a business.
Maybe you really want Bernie.
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>> “The posts about Trump are worse.” <<
How can that be? The posts about Trump are truthful, while the posts about Cruz are vile demonic lies intended to destroy the only viable candidate that was ever in the race.
You have acquired a very ‘bent’ way of looking at things.
As someone who has been personally acquainted with the Doc for almost 20 years, I can tell you with certainty that your assumption is false.
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