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To: Swordmaker

Jesus was not a Nazarite because he drank wine. He was not an Essene — won’t find it.

Judas was hired to identify Jesus; there was nothing different in his appearance.

The Jews, when they prepared a body, wrapped it around with cloth, etc., and did that with Jesus, except his face, for lack of time. His body was covered up.

If you will notice, that shroud imprint has his hands on his knees, which meant the body was kind of in a seating position to accomplish that.


27 posted on 04/17/2016 1:16:59 PM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg
Jesus was not a Nazarite because he drank wine. He was not an Essene — won’t find it.

Who told you either of those non-facts? Drinking of wine was part of the Jewish religion because the fruit of the grape could not be kept long with out fermenting. Period. There is evidence he was an Essene.

I have studied the Shroud of Turin for over 40 years. Your claim that the Shroud of Turin image has it's hands on its knees is ludicrous. The image's hands are crossed over the groin are, a long distance away from the knees. Under computer enhancement, it is possible to discern the Man on the Shroud was circumsized (per Barrie Schwortz, the principal photographer of the Shroud or Turin Research Project (STURP), and nowhere near his knees. The legs were somewhat bent from being on the Cross, and being in Rigor Mortis. The mage was NOT in a sitting position. SHEESH! If you think the Shroud image is of a man with his hands on his knees because he's's a seated position, you literally do not know what you are talking about!



41 posted on 04/17/2016 2:26:25 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: odawg
The Jews, when they prepared a body, wrapped it around with cloth, etc., and did that with Jesus, except his face, for lack of time. His body was covered up.

You really know nothing about First Century Jewish burial customs, do you? You are conflating EGYPTIAN burial methods with what is written quite extensively in the Mishnah and Talmud about how a Jewish Burial is to be accomplished, requiring burial before sundown on the day of death of a Jewish person. . . which literally does not allow much time to swaddle a body after cleaning, anointing, etc.. . before the sun drops below the horizon. Jesus died at about 3 PM, and sundown was at around 7:30. That meant that his friends had to get permission to take him off the cross, permission to bury him instead of leaving him to the vagaries of weather and wild animals (the usual practice), gather the spices, persuade the Roman soldiers they had permission, get the body down, pulling the nails, etc. All before 7:30 at which time Sabbath started. . . and no work could be done and the helpers had to be ritually clean before then. That's a LOT to be done in a short amount of time. They probably did not get started until at least 4PM. . . and they had to walk everywhere. Learn something about the customs before you claim something you obviously know very little about.

The one thing they WOULD have covered would have been his face, the one thing you say they did not. Again, Sheesh!

44 posted on 04/17/2016 2:36:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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