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Serious Question for Cruz Supporters (VANITY)
04/14/2016 | Les Dowrey

Posted on 04/14/2016 12:42:16 PM PDT by LesDowrey

If Ted Cruz were to win the GOP Nomination on the 2nd ballot or further down the line, he will have won the GOP nomination based on STOPPING Trump, not SUPPORTING Ted. That's not really a great way to win is it? Also, if he couldn't beat Trump at the ballot box, how will he beat Hillary?


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KEYWORDS: 2016; convention; donaldtrump; tedcruz; vanity
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To: Conservative Gato
If you Cruz supporters are successful, it’s “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”.

When are some of you going to realize Ted Cruz isn’t the principled conservative he pretends to be?

The vanity question was.....could Cruz beat Hillary if he won the nomination at the convention.

I said Cruz had the organization, determination and "smarts" to do it if he had the backing of Republicans that didn't want a Socialist in the White House.

I expounded on my thinking of Trump beating Hillary should he get to 1237 before the convention........finishing with what I thought it would take for a non-Trump/non-Cruz GOPe backed candidate to beat Hillary

Nowhere in my post did I mention anything about "principled conservatives".

And the only "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" is if Hillary or Bernie get into the White House. I would finish off a fifth of whiskey, hold my nose, carry a barf bag and vote "Bawlin' Boehner" if I thought he could keep that from happening.

141 posted on 04/14/2016 3:46:25 PM PDT by TXSearcher (The anti-RINO rebellion is being won by a NY RINO.......truth IS stranger than fiction.)
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To: Leto

Trump will be crushed by Clinton in the fall IF he the nominee.

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You may be correct, “if he the nominee”. Now name someone that will crush Clinton in the fall,
in your opinion. Can you do that for us and maybe furnish a couple of reasons that would happen.


142 posted on 04/14/2016 3:47:44 PM PDT by deport
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To: CA Conservative

Mississippi is 40% black

Whoever GOP IS USUALLY GETS 90% of white vote which means 54% of the electorate

McCain got 55 percent of the general

Romney got 54% of the general

No twenty point spreads lately there trust me....

Nobody in Dixie has drawn crowds like Trump since Elvis or Lynyrd Skynyrd or Billy Graham

No presidential candidate has had registration sign ups or crossovers or primary turnout like Trump in the South and likely will in the northeast

You guys discount all that over and over like nothing and in the face of an opposition the likes of which no one has since since I have been alive ....1957

Basically everyone in the media except a handful and both parties and 95% of the pundit class yet he keeps rolling

Why?

Because he has support and enthusiasm way beyond anyone in a very long time

General election polls right now are worthless

Primary voting results and turnout are not


143 posted on 04/14/2016 3:48:19 PM PDT by wardaddy (gonna need a lot of rope and lamposts and gibbets after this primary season.....)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nope she will vote for the constitutional party candidate, she is done voting for limbs,mew saw his act up close in NJ.

She thinks he is one step removed from Bill Clinton.


144 posted on 04/14/2016 3:48:45 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Leto

Too bad.


145 posted on 04/14/2016 3:49:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Leto

How about you?


146 posted on 04/14/2016 3:50:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: deport

I don’t know that anyone will crush Clnton. I think Cruz could win, Cruz won’t motivate the rat base the way Trump will.

OTOH Trump’s scorched earth campaign may make it impossible for anyone to win.


147 posted on 04/14/2016 3:51:25 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Leto; Jim Robinson; nopardons; Jane Long; hoosiermama; RitaOK; HarleyLady27; Black Agnes; ...
70% of women, including my wife can’t stand the guy.

Your wife ... what a shocker!

LOLOLOLOLOL

I don't believe that push poll for a minute!
I've been to one of Mr. Trump's YUGE Events and guess what? Women comprised at least half of the attendance!
148 posted on 04/14/2016 3:54:29 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: LesDowrey

Just like every other GOP candidate since Reagan: we may not like the candidate, but he’s still way better than the alternative (the Democratic candidate). Fight like he11 to get the candidate we want, then fight like he11 to elect the candidate we’ve got.


149 posted on 04/14/2016 3:56:34 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: wardaddy; CA Conservative

T T T T ! ! ! ©


150 posted on 04/14/2016 3:58:22 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: onyx

Most women I know support Trump


151 posted on 04/14/2016 4:05:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (gonna need a lot of rope and lamposts and gibbets after this primary season.....)
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To: onyx

70% of women, including my wife can’t stand the guy.

Your wife ... what a shocker!

LOLOLOLOLOL

I don’t believe that push poll for a minute!
I’ve been to one of Mr. Trump’s YUGE Events and guess what? Women comprised at least half of the attendance!

____________________________________________________

So polls that have Trump ahead are good polls, polls that highlight his weaknesses are push polls, got it. :D

So a little simple math, pubs are roughly 50% of voting public,

Trump has gotten ~37% of the pub vote

So .5 x .37 = 18.5%, since the polls show 30% support among women, both cases could be true.

Isn’t math fun?


152 posted on 04/14/2016 4:09:12 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Leto



MUST BE ALL MEN!

153 posted on 04/14/2016 4:14:13 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: wardaddy; Leto

Don’t tell Leto.


154 posted on 04/14/2016 4:15:30 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: Leto

I take issue with ONE push poll that MSM and Trump enemies continue to cite and nauseously repeat and you reply with THAT?

Get real.


155 posted on 04/14/2016 4:18:13 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: onyx

Sounds like his whining about CO worked.


156 posted on 04/14/2016 4:18:31 PM PDT by Leto
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To: onyx

I take issue with ONE push poll that MSM and Trump enemies continue to cite and nauseously repeat and you reply with THAT?

Get real.
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The guy’s negatives among women have been over 60% for months in multiple polls the latest bring at 70%.

If you want to delude yourself be my guest.


157 posted on 04/14/2016 4:21:57 PM PDT by Leto
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To: hometoroost

I don’t know if he’ll win in November or not, but I do know that in my little South Carolina county a significant number of Democrats crossed over and voted in the Republican primary which Trump won. I don’t like open primaries and I don’t like the other party choosing my party’s candidate.

Probably most of them are just fed-up Americans who see a guy they’d like to become President. But since their political values are pretty much the antithesis of mine, I have to consider that “their” guy’s policies need to be scrutinized very carefully.

Of course, they’ll vote for Hillary in the general but my guess is that they’ll be satisfied with which ever way things go in November. Unfortunately, America and all she stands for hangs in the balance.


158 posted on 04/14/2016 4:23:31 PM PDT by SunshinesStormySummerSon
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To: Outlaw76
Tell me about those 10 in the modern primary era!

The last was Reagan and Ford and that was because it was a legitimate split between the delegates.

That was in 1976.

Ford, an incumbent President, lost that election by the way.

So, how many convention battles have there been since 1976?

So, don't go back to convention fights before there were primaries!

Primaries were instituted to stop convention battles where insiders made the decisions and deals were cut.

159 posted on 04/14/2016 4:24:01 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Leto

It’s just a small sample of GOP primary voters.

Cruz’s delegate shenanigans “within the rules” are losing him an irretrievable amount of “good will” with voters, but he circumvents the voters anyway, so WTH.


160 posted on 04/14/2016 4:24:35 PM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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