Kind of. A good rule of thumb is about a bit over an hours drive outside of the city. City workers will commute that far out, so ... beyond that is “Upstate”.
I say anything north of I84 which is pretty close to what you’re saying
My rule of thumb is that it is upstate if they have lost a quarter or more of their population in the last fifty years.
Amazing, but true...
https://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/pubs/research/pop_trends.pdf
My rule of thumb is that it is upstate if they have lost a quarter or more of their population in the last fifty years.
Amazing, but true...
https://www.osc.state.ny.us/localgov/pubs/research/pop_trends.pdf