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Ted Cruz,The “hymen” joke that perfectly reflects his odious worldview
New York Times ^ | APRIL 22, 2015 | JASON HOROWITZ

Posted on 03/26/2016 2:04:33 AM PDT by true believer forever

Mr. Cruz’s own attempts at humor sometimes missed the mark. In one debate, he proposed a method to detect infidelity in which God should “give women a hymen that grows back every time she has intercourse with a different guy, because that will be a ‘visible sign’ of the breach of trust,” according to a recollection by David Kennedy published in a Harvard debate team reunion booklet in 2001.

Mr. Kennedy’s debate partner mocked Mr. Cruz’s knowledge of the subject matter by contorting herself to see how the anatomy in question could be “visible,” according to the booklet.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: 2016; cruz; trump
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To: GilesB
"I DO see hypocrisy here when you claim only Cruz supporters are making nasty, negative comments."

You are totally out of hand. Find me where I said that too. Again, good luck. When you debate someone, it's kind of customary not to make things up out of thin air.

61 posted on 03/26/2016 1:10:26 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: Liz

And what should God have given man that grows back every time he has intercourse with a different gal? Or guy...whichever, makes no difference...infidelity is infidelity. Such sickness!


62 posted on 03/26/2016 1:11:50 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: tinyowl

You posted: My standard is not to post good or bad, positive or negative.” “mal adjusted kid with sociopathic tendancies” is not “good or bad, negative or positive” but simply “truth”???? LOLOL

Later, in the same post, you said: “One thing you’ll notice about the conversation is that we’re not calling Cruz names or calling Cruz’s people names. What we have to say may not be what you want to hear, but it’s backed by thought and care for the country. Your only care is to convince yourself that you are smart. In that way, you are like the part of the internet that people refer to as cheap trash.” (If “smart” is a comparative value, you do a better job of convincing me I am, than I ever could.)

What is becoming obvious to me is that it would be stupid for me to continue trying to talk sense to you. For some strange reason Matthew 7:6 keeps coming into my mind.


63 posted on 03/26/2016 1:26:10 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: GilesB

Giles you’re quoting single words and using them in your own sentence ... which is a step up from inventing sentences entirely... Bye.


64 posted on 03/26/2016 1:58:01 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: tinyowl

Great post.


65 posted on 03/26/2016 2:14:11 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Ozark Tom
The passages that caught my eye are assessments of the Cruz strategies, and his foibles.

“Ted was not about responding to anything,” Mr. Panton said. “He would reframe the whole debate.”

“Nobody was better at setting traps,” said Austan D. Goolsbee, a Yale debater who became a leading economist for President Obama. He recalled Mr. Cruz’s attempts to control debates with carefully constructed arguments that always seemed to anticipate his opponents’ rebuttals.

But Mr. Goolsbee and other top debaters on the circuit who frequently beat Mr. Cruz discovered it was easy to get under his skin, especially with humor. “It would unravel him,” Mr. Goolsbee said.

That inability to handle humor might be a good thing for Trump to note. I have actually never heard Cruz answer a question specifically and simply. He automatically veers off into his talking points and, depended on the quality of the asker, he gets pulled back, but most times just talks till he runs out the clock. It was the first thing I noticed about him when I was trying to figure what he stood for from his own words in real time.

66 posted on 03/26/2016 3:30:16 PM PDT by true believer forever (Innuendo and Expediency - hallmarks of the Cruz campaign. GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: NonValueAdded
Sounds like something Bernie would (did) write.

It's just really a horrible joke. I don't know much about Bernie or his sense of humor.

67 posted on 03/26/2016 3:33:28 PM PDT by true believer forever (Innuendo and Expediency - hallmarks of the Cruz campaign. GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
well it would seem Rafael has a foul mouth...

that squeaky clean image is as clouded as Willard’s...

a double minded man is unstable in all his ways...James 1:8

I think he is very repressed sexually and these kinds of thoughts are indicative of that. I mean, who would ever think of that as an example of a breach of trust - checking a woman's hymen? Other than the medieval types patrolling the ME right now, I mean.

68 posted on 03/26/2016 3:35:43 PM PDT by true believer forever (Innuendo and Expediency - hallmarks of the Cruz campaign. GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: neocon1984
The Hew York Times ?

Seriously?

I see no problem using the Times if the quotes are attributed and the data sourced and linked, but I'm probably not as smart as you being I support Trump.

69 posted on 03/26/2016 3:37:47 PM PDT by true believer forever (Innuendo and Expediency - hallmarks of the Cruz campaign. GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: Savage Beast
according to a recollection...published in a Harvard debate team reunion booklet in 2001

Reaching waaaaaay back for straws... As he recalls from a debate 16 years ago...

These people are desperate.

I have seen plenty of Cruz supporters, I'm sure you're one, talk about things Donald said from over 40 years ago. Got no safe space for you, sorry, go away without whining.

70 posted on 03/26/2016 3:40:31 PM PDT by true believer forever (Innuendo and Expediency - hallmarks of the Cruz campaign. GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: nfldgirl

Close, but no cigar!


71 posted on 03/26/2016 3:43:12 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: true believer forever
Actually, I'm a Trump supporter.

Do you always jump to stupid conclusions?

72 posted on 03/26/2016 3:49:22 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Truth--as well as we can perceive it and put it into words--is the best we can do.)
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To: equaviator

What? Looks like Lee Strasberg as Hyman Roth in Godfather Part II. No?


73 posted on 03/26/2016 3:50:24 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: ByteMercenary; All
I cannot believe this tempest in a teapot over the use of a perfectly good English word. It makes me wonder if many of the posters here are no smarter than that (black) Dallas council member who went ballistic over the words ‘black hole’ (Google it) or the (black) Washington DC city employee who was let go after using ‘niggardly’.

For goodness sake folks, if you don’t know exactly what a word means, look it up before spouting off.

Thanks so much for looking out for the folks. As for me, I am getting tired of Cruz supporters who somehow think they, or their candidate, are intellectually superior to the average Trump voter.

I actually do know what the word means, and I also know what it conveys. That a female, maybe your daughter or wife, should be vertical, legs open, while a look at her hymen decides whether or not she has been faithful or is virginal, or, in Cruz' words, has breached the trust, whatever that means.

In case you hadn't noticed, there are people in the ME at this very moment who enlist and encourage the same type of exercise to avail the worth of women. It is a product of repressed sexuality - and that is what Cruz is putting on display with this choice of argument - a repressed and probably perverted sexuality. That he would even say something like this in a debate setting should give you serious pause. But it won't, because Ted is the Messiah.

Hope I didn't cause too much intellectual slumming on your part, just wanted to say my part as one of those barefoot bacon loving Trump supporters. I'll go back under the porch now.

74 posted on 03/26/2016 3:53:47 PM PDT by true believer forever (Innuendo and Expediency - hallmarks of the Cruz campaign. GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: true believer forever

There’s something wrong with Cruz.


75 posted on 03/26/2016 3:53:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tinyowl

You make no sense - I cut and pasted from your own posts, Hillary. Lie, lie, deny, deny.

Not only are you stupid, you are dishonest and disengenuous.

Yep, we’re done - because you cannot promote your guy without tearing down the other guy and/or lying.


76 posted on 03/26/2016 3:54:02 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: MarMema
This is a terrific read no matter who you support. It gives a wonderful and intuitional picture of Ted Cruz, just as rigid and tightly wound as he appears in public today. Someday his daughters may collaborate on a fascinating book.

Rigid is definitely a word that describes Ted perfectly. That book may have a few unseemly details in it.

77 posted on 03/26/2016 3:55:18 PM PDT by true believer forever (Innuendo and Expediency - hallmarks of the Cruz campaign. GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: nfldgirl

Sorry, I forgot to add the “sarcasm tag” (/s). I was making a play on the microphone-cigar phallic symbolism. I know, I know...Too much symbolism sucks.


78 posted on 03/26/2016 3:57:20 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: napscoordinator
Oh my gosh. Cruz is a sick pup.

Excellent analysis, how sick is the question.

79 posted on 03/26/2016 3:59:15 PM PDT by true believer forever (Innuendo and Expediency - hallmarks of the Cruz campaign. GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: trisham
There’s something wrong with Cruz.

There's something VERY wrong with Cruz.

80 posted on 03/26/2016 3:59:59 PM PDT by true believer forever (Innuendo and Expediency - hallmarks of the Cruz campaign. GO TRUMP!!!)
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