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Army Chief Eyeing Glock Pistol as Service's Next Sidearm
Military.com ^ | March 21, 2016 | Matthew Cox

Posted on 03/22/2016 9:38:59 AM PDT by C19fan

The U.S. Army's chief of staff is searching for alternatives to the multi-year Modular Handgun System effort, to include piggy-backing on Army Special Operations Command's current pistol contract. Gen. Mark Milley has used recent public appearances to criticize federal acquisition guidelines that all services must follow when choosing and purchasing weapons and equipment.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: army; banglist; dod; glock; guns; pistols
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To: right way right

We lived in the Twin Cities when I bought the Glock from Bill’s Gun Shop in Lillydale, just south of the I-35 bridge over the Mississippi going into St. Paul. Bill’s did the polish and de-burr work on the gun and it’s been smooth as butter ever since.
I’m sure a local gunsmith can remedy the glitch. I do know it was widespread on the 1st generation .40s.


141 posted on 03/22/2016 5:19:50 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Any idea about what the muzzle velocity for the 9mm +P+ load would be shooting it in my MP5A3?


142 posted on 03/22/2016 5:58:51 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Farmer Dean

Just about doesn’t count.

Revolvers and single stack semi-autos don’t hold a candle to double stack autos for putting rounds down range.

I own and shoot many examples of all three and have competed with and carried all three in harms way.

Give a hi-cap any day


143 posted on 03/23/2016 4:44:14 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Daniel Ramsey

The steel core is only banned for civilian use in the US.


144 posted on 03/23/2016 4:50:43 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

I know,the model 1955 is kind of unique but it’s still no match for my USP or PX4.It’s just a fun gun to shoot.


145 posted on 03/23/2016 5:41:19 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Farmer Dean

For pure shooting enjoyment revolvers are very near the top end.

I own many and enjoy them a lot.


146 posted on 03/23/2016 6:03:24 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Farmer Dean

I should think you’d get a slightly higher muzzle velocity, because of the barrel length. The powder is not yet burned completely when it exits a pistol barrel.


147 posted on 03/23/2016 7:53:49 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: smokingfrog
Some pistols can be quite finicky with hollow point ammo too.

You're referring to 1911's. That's a feed ramp issue. No modern striker-fired pistol that I know of has issues with hollow-point bullets.

148 posted on 03/23/2016 7:56:48 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Because the Beretta M9 works. I've never had a jam or failure to eject from mine in over 1000 rounds. I love it. Why change now?

I've got a Beretta in 40 cal with well over 4000 rounds thru it with no failure of any kind. Still haven't changed the recoil spring either. Amazing piece of machinery....

Can't say that about my Glocks. Glocks can fail. Mine have. Not consistently and mostly attributed to ammo or limp wristing, but still.....

149 posted on 03/23/2016 10:17:02 AM PDT by Envisioning (4.13.15 - That awkward moment in history when 53 million racists became sexists...)
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To: Envisioning

Yeah...the Beretta was my first pistol. I wanted a Colt Python .357 but the extra dough didn’t give me what I got in the Beretta.


150 posted on 03/23/2016 10:39:00 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackoLivesMatter)
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To: Mr. K

.38 revolvers are mechanically more complex than semi-autos, in some ways. You have to get six different chambers to line up with on barrel. The timing is particularly critical.

A little bit of sand causes serious malfunctions.

And, of course, you only have six rounds, without reloading, instead of 16 or 18.


151 posted on 03/23/2016 2:08:29 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: backwoods-engineer

My Kahr 9mm doesn’t seem to like 115g hollow points. 124g or 147g Gold Dot almost always work flawlessly. Something to do with the shape or length of the bullet I’d guess. I have some Hornady CRITICAL DUTY 135g I need to test.


152 posted on 03/23/2016 2:41:52 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Tallguy
The Glock 18 has a safety.

(you gave me an excuse to post some gun porn)

153 posted on 03/23/2016 2:51:57 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Gamecock

Back after WWII, S&W supplied thousands of revolvers to the French police. They required a safety on the revolvers.


154 posted on 03/23/2016 6:36:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Vaquero
I can’t imagine the military with friggin Glocks.

"Kimbers are what you show your friends. Glocks, are what you show the enemy." - Anon

;-)

155 posted on 03/24/2016 3:20:32 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: DCBryan1

Agreed. Glock is the wrong choice as a service pistol, as the only so called “safety” is on the trigger. Bad choice for privates to carry. While Glock is a great pistol, bad choice when you want something to be “Joe” proof. Anything that has ever been described as “Joe” proof, or indestructible, just hand to a band of young privates and they will prove you wrong. Agreed again on the choice of an M1911 type .45; their a a few that are hi cap now. Just my 2 centavos.


156 posted on 03/24/2016 3:31:06 PM PDT by mikefive (RLTW)
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To: Mr. K
I would go with a 38 revolver

We tried that a long time ago, but that was when we were faced with fanatical religious enemies killing American troops in hotspots across the globe, and towns along our borders were under attack and burned by bandits while criminal gangs threatened citizens in our towns and cities.

A lot has changed since then, after all Hey, how'd that revolver tryout work out, anyway....?


157 posted on 03/25/2016 1:07:26 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Because the Beretta M9 works. I've never had a jam or failure to eject from mine in over 1000 rounds. I love it. Why change now?

The islamists may be in control of Italy, [again!] and thereby Beretta, in another decade.

158 posted on 03/25/2016 1:09:11 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Temujinshordes
The CSA has my approval to buy “off the shelf”,

Well, Generals Stonewall Jackson and Nathan Bedford Forrest of the CSA chose the LeMat *grapeshot* revolver, and purchased their own.

It is indeed a little clunky at first grasp, but one does get used to it. Letting off the center-tube shotgun barrel may spook the horses, but that's much less of a consideration nowadays- and both of the officers mentioned above were fine horsemen.



159 posted on 03/25/2016 1:16:20 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

If the islamists take over Italy, Ugo might well decamp for Tennessee. Ask the authorities in the Peoples Republik of Maryland ...


160 posted on 03/25/2016 1:22:39 PM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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