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To: Iowa David

Talk Radio is the home plate of Dogmatic Conservatism. They live. For them theory of “Conservatism” is more important then anything else

The 2016 GOP Primary has brought up an old divide in Conservatism. There currently is a war being waged between the Dogmatics and the Realists. The Dogmatist care nothing about political realities, only the purity of the candidates political dogma matters to them. The Realist understands you have to be able to advance the political ball down the field to achieve the goals of the dogma. The Realist understands some times a flawed tool is going work better then the flawlessly poltical pure tool.

Reagan, who was a realist, wrote about it.

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

The Dogmatic at NR, Town Hall, Red State and the rest of the “Conservative” media sneer at the realist as being “nihlistic towards DC and the GOP”.

It is not Nihilism, it Realism. Since 1988 Conservatives have faithfully pledges their treasure and time to the GOP. Despite elections successes in 1988, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2010 and 2014 what have Conservative gotten from the GOP?

Prosperity? Nope worse economy since 1979.

Reduction in Government-nope as expensive, corrupt, incompetent, intrusive and bigger then ever

Supreme Court? Nope as far left as it has ever been.

A Nation secure? Nope at risk in a dangerous world. Military broken, exhausted and overextended.

A respect for rule of law and the Constitution? Nope. Government, and society, is more lawless then it has ever been.

A healthy growing vibrant society? Nope stagnant, or in decline, everywhere in every way.

So, it not Nihilism, it Realism. It is a realistic assessment that doing the same thing again this year electorally is going to continue this decline and degradation from DC.You can only overcome inertia in any system with force. So we need to force DC out of it denigrate path onto a new path. So why Trump rather then Cruz?

I know this falls on deaf ears with 100%ers at NR, Red State and other “Conservative” media but the fact remains, we are a Constitutional Republic that rests on the notion that the people’s Representatives in Government know how to compromise and negotiate.

This feeling that Cruz will ride into DC and dictate the Conservative Media’s 100%er terms to everyone else there is simply wishful thinking. What is more probable is Cruz would be a GOP Carter.

Carter was the same sort of religious political puritan who went to DC and assumed he would dictate his political dogmas to everyone there. The record shows how badly that idea failed.

“Conservative” politicians talk a good game and then go to DC and accomplish nothing. After 30 years of fail, it is time to try another solution. The winning candidate is, brace yourselves.... going to have to cut DEALS! And some times those deals require..compromise!!!

Another fail point for the “Principled Conservatives” is they think only as far as the election. Then once they win their purity candidates go to DC and fail against the inertia of the DC/Media political machine. 1988-1994-1998-2000-2002-2004-2010-2014 are all example of where this “Next election” mindset has failed.

Trump is merely the 1st wave of a multi wave assault. Cruz might do for a follow up wave, he is not a 1st wave candidate. Without Trump to lead the way, the Cruz boat would of either been ignored because it was irrelevant, or been shelled into oblivion by the $10s of millions of GOPE attack ads.

The 1st wave job in any assault is to shatter the defenses and open the road for the follow up waves. No matter how flawed you think the vessel is, Trump is the best 1st wave political assault team we have had to hand in my lifetime.

We need to use Trump for all he is worth to shatter the corrupt, “my party right or wrong” mindset that grips vast swaths of the electorate. Break that inertia, get the people thinking outside the party label box and real change is possible. Do not an we slide into a stagnate European style decline that will not end in my lifetime. Cruz shares that agenda point but is not as well equipped by background and media following to achieve that break through as Trump

We either win this now or we have little chance of ever doing it again politically. Once we win we must relentlessly stay on the attack election wave after election wave until we are dead.

I am really not willing to leave this fight to my kids and grand-kids. We have let the ship of state drift since Reagan in the hands of the “smart people”. We failed and must redeem that failure.

This is our generation’s “go” time


10 posted on 03/22/2016 5:20:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well said, sir. The part that scares me the most...

“We either win this now or we have little chance of ever doing it again politically.”


66 posted on 03/22/2016 6:04:06 AM PDT by moovova
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To: MNJohnnie
..When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them

I wonder if those conservatives were against his amnesty plan in '86? Sometimes fidelity to principal and NOT cutting deals is the best policy.

“Conservative” politicians talk a good game and then go to DC and accomplish nothing. After 30 years of fail, it is time to try another solution. The winning candidate is, brace yourselves.... going to have to cut DEALS! And some times those deals require..compromise!!!

Of course they accomplish nothing when they are one or two Senators amount 98 socialists or socialist sympathizers. The idea of "compromise" that has been embraced by the GOPe has been, "We will be so happy if we let the socialists move our country further to the left as long as they give hand outs to our corporate benefactors.

As Cruz has said, his type of deal is..."O.K. I will accept only half the loaf of bread. Then once I have the bread, I immediately ask for the other half."

Our idea of victory cannot be one in which we temporarily stop the Democrats from moving to full on Socialism. It needs to be a completely free market, a universal embrace of the 10th amendment, no abortions in the United States, no more subsidization of bad behavior among the poor, no more corporate welfare, etc...

Those should be the goals. Only their full realization should be considered a victory. Anything less than that should be considered a half victory / half loss. Moving even one inch closer to socialism in any regard should be considered an unacceptable failure.

75 posted on 03/22/2016 6:20:12 AM PDT by nitzy (I don't vote for Republican'ts)
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To: MNJohnnie
Brilliant post! Thanks for taking the time to articulate what many of us think and feel but have a hard time communicating. Great job!

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it."

Reagan was a realist. He dealt with the communists long before he ever got to DC. When he was president of the SAG it was full of communist agitators who only wanted to cause trouble and disruption but Reagan managed to hold things together. When he got to Dc he managed to work with a Congress that despised and ridiculed him and achieved historic wins...because he was willing to negotiate and compromise and take what he could get.

82 posted on 03/22/2016 6:26:41 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: MNJohnnie

I have a feeling this article has a lot to do with Salem Media :

Salem Media
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Media_Group#Political_activities

They’ve endorsed Cruz and are fighting tooth and nail to make their endorsement count...they’ll never turn towards Trump. They would have probably chosen Bush, had he ever stood a chance. That’s how “conservative” they are.

Morton Blackwell is a conservative who is a fairly hard-nosed conservative and who has endorsed Ted Cruz. He is also a political activist and an “expert” on RNC Rules...he’ll be front and center jockeying to ensure his endorsement wins, but to no avail, at the brokered convention. The party is eager to eliminate both Cruz and Trump...We’ll have to wait and see if Trump’s popularity among voters and the voters say will be tossed out the window for the elite’s RINO preference.

Morton Blackwell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton_Blackwell

Check this out, too, regarding Salem

Excerpt:
“Politics as an industry – Salem Communications [radio talk show (Hugh Hewitt), Red State (Eric Erickson), now also Twitchy (Michelle Malkin), Hot Air (McCain), NRO, Townhall, Human Events, Bearing Arms] apparently have the same general ideological world view -regarding immigration- as Rupert Murdoch and The Wall Street Journal, etc.”

Excerpt 2:
“In 2014 (sorry, cannot recall the date), Salem Radio hosted a conference call with Senator Marco Rubio to address the Gang of Eight legislation and “set the record straight.” All national and local talk hosts were urged to take part. I am one of their local hosts, and what I heard that day was troubling.”

Insider Reveals Salem Media Was Part of The Coordinated Gang-of-Eight Manipulation
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/07/insider-reveals-salem-media-was-part-of-the-coordinated-gang-of-eight-manipulation/comment-page-2/


88 posted on 03/22/2016 6:33:10 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: MNJohnnie
...Trump is merely the 1st wave of a multi wave assault.... Without Trump to lead the way, the Cruz boat would of either been ignored because it was irrelevant, or been shelled into oblivion by the $10s of millions of GOPE attack ads.

Beautiful metaphor and analysis!

For your excellent commentary, I bestow on you the H. L. Mencken Memorial Distinguished Political Punditry Award.  Well done!


112 posted on 03/22/2016 6:51:01 AM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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